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Replacement Windows Reviews : Window Company : Marvin Marvin Windows ReviewsRead 83 Marvin windows reviews on their most popular products, including the Integrity, Infinity and Ultimate Series. For pricing on these window lines, refer to the follow - Marvin window prices.
Marvin Windows Prices | Integrity Series | Infinity Series
Editor's Marvin Window ReviewMarvin Windows is one of the more well known companies in the window industry and enjoys an excellent reputation (arguably the best in the business). Are there bad Marvin window reviews and unhappy customers out there? Of course there are, but compared to all of the other companies, Marvin fares extremely well. The company only makes 3 window series, but the models they do make are very good. Marvin Fiberglass WindowsMarvin is perhaps most well known for their fiberglass windows that include the Marvin Integrity and Marvin Infinity window. Both the Integrity and Infinity are well made and durable windows, although the Infinity is generally considered the stronger and nicer of the two (the Infinity should run say $75 more than the Integrity for a comparable window). The Integrity model offers one very nice feature and that is a wood interior option (as opposed to the all ultrex fiberglass frame.) This makes for a good wood clad window at a pretty reasonable price. In fact, the wood clad Integrity Series is one of my selections for the best windows at an affordable price. Interestingly, the Integrity gets panned in the 2014 Consumer reports best windows (at least in terms of the score they receive), but our opinion is much more favorable. Marvin Wood Clad WindowsTheMarvin Ultimate Series is their wood clad window that looks great, can be ordered with tons of options and features and is fairly reasonably priced for the quality of the product. But don't let this fool you, the Marvin Ultimate is not a cheap window by any means - think $1000 a window for a medium sized double hung with standard installation. However, when a group of contractors gets together to discuss the best wood windows on the market, the Ultimate Series is always in the mix. Marvin Windows WarrantyThe Marvin window warranty includes a 20 year provision for the exterior cladding, 20 years for glass, 10 years for hardware, and 5 years on the interior finish. All in all, not the most impressive warranty out there. It is fully transferrable, which is always a nice feature. (Although for what you are paying, it really ought to be.)
Marvin Integrity Windows ReviewsThe Marvin Integrity window is the company's new construction fiberglass window that can be ordered either as an all Ultrex fiberglass frame or with the exterior Ultrex cladding and a real wood interior. This is a great option for consumers who want a relatively affordable wood window with an exterior fiberglass cladding. The wood interior option will be more expensive than the all Ultrex option.
Marvin Windows In PennsylvaniaHi Dane. I just came across your website so wanted to get your opinion. I am looking to replace 8 old Anderson windows approximately 27"x53". I may also replace a bay window and possibly a few small bathroom windows.
[Site Editor's Answer]Hey there John, thanks for the question. Renewal is always super expensive, and quite a bit overpriced in my opinion. Marvin is often pricey, but a better deal because fiberglass is a very strong material and their products are quite well made. My own take, however, is that a really good quality vinyl window provides better value and energy efficiency than fiberglass windows. Fiberglass typically sells for 30% more than vinyl.
[John's Reply]Thanks for your input Dane. I haven't heard of those brands of windows but will take a look. Its funny that the Renewal salesman stresses to stay away from vinyl windows yet they seem to be the most popular. Of course he is trying to sell his composite window. No doubt pros and cons with any company.
[Site Editor's Answer]John, I let the energy efficiency numbers of a high quality vinyl window compared to a Renewal window speak for themselves. A Renewal composite double hung air infiltration is right around .15, while an Okna 500 double hung (their mid range window) is .02. That's a measure of how much air is allowed through the window -- the Renewal is a mediocre number, while the Okna is nearly unbeatable. Only a .01 beats it, which the Okna 800 achieves. Take that Renewal By Andersen! :)
Marvin Windows In WisconsinDane, I have a lovely porch that has french swing in windows interspersed with some stationary windows. There are 15 all total, 9 facing south (3 stationary), 4 facing East, (2 stationary), and 2 facing West (1 stationary). There is a storm door also facing West. They completely take up all of the space on those 3 sides. Dimensions are East 7’6”, South 17’6”, West 4’4” width and all are 50” long. All of the windows have storms and screens that are in very good shape with the exception of the stationary windows that have only storms.
[Site Editor's Answer]Joan, this is one of those projects where lots of bids from local companies is a must to get a number of options, prices, and brands. The different companies could vary widely in what prices and approaches they will take. Some may suggest only replacing your stationary or fixed windows with a quality vinyl window that has a good low-e glass that will block most of the UV and heat entering the window. This glass will likely be darker than what you have, which may or may not be an issue for you.
Marvin Integrity Basement OptionsGood evening gentlemen -- found your website and found it helpful -- hopefully you can provide some guidance for me as you have done for others.
[Site Editor's Answer]Jim, the entry level Slocomb series is not a very good window and that's reflected in the price. The Slocomb premium models are pretty solid though. While I don't have any specific recommendations for Connecticut, I'd suggest the following:
Marvin Integrity Fiberglass WindowsHi Dane, I live in Michigan area , currently I have vinyl builder grade window. I am looking to replace 19 slider window and one patio door in basement. I am so confused should I buy vinyl or fiberglass window?
[Site Editor's Answer]Rajen, my advise would be to buy a quality window, regardless of whether it is vinyl or fiberglass. Then find a quality installer/company to do the work. The two materials are not all that different from one another.
[Rajen's Reply]Dan, Do you have good suggestions for window installer for Sunrise window in Michigan? Thanks.
[Site Editor's Answer]Rajen, their website has a good search function to show local dealers. I don't know any particular companies to recommend in your area. You can also call up Sunrise and ask them if there is a dealer that they recommend. They will have a better handle on that info — possibly. Good luck!
Marvin Integrity Pricing vs. Alside MezzoHello, Dane and Tim, really appreciate your site - very organized, to the point, and informative!
[Site Editor's Answer]AT, it sounds like your project is more complicated than a window simple replacement project. I think you need a couple more bids to get the fair market price of your project. I'd prefer you go with a Sunrise vinyl window over the Alside Mezzo or Marvin Integrity (again depends on the bid...)
Marvin Integrity all-Ultrex vs. Soft-Lite ElementsHello Tim & Dane, we are in the process of replacing vinyl windows in our living room. These are fixed windows. It’s an A-frame structure with 10 panels, 4 of which are 70”x70” squares. Those are the largest panels. The remainder are trapezoids, rectangles and triangles.
[Site Editor's Answer]Thomas, the Soft-Lite Elements windows is the better window in terms of fit, tolerance, and craftsmanship. This can be seen in the energy efficiency numbers, including the u-value, air infiltration, design pressure, etc. The Soft-Lite Elements is one of the best vinyl windows on the market. The Marvin Integrity all-Ultrex window is quite good, but it can't hold a candle to the Elements in my opinion.
Marvin Integrity vs. ProVia EndureWe need to replace four Pella wood clad windows. I'm considering fiberglass, but I didn't like the Pella option and I was put off by the Fibrex saw dust / PVC mix from Renewal. The Marvin Integrity fiberglass is actually my first choice.
[Site Editor's Answer]Kimmy, the Marvin Integrity window is quite good. It is a very solid fiberglass replacement window. The ProVia Endure in my opinion is probably slightly better in terms of strength and energy efficiency. There will be differences of opinion on this point to be sure.
Marvin Integrity & Sunrise RestorationHi Dane & Tim, We're both retired on a fixed income and own a home that was built in 2003 with builder grade single hung windows that really need replacing. I've spent a lot of time on your Replacement Windows Reviews website. Thank you very much for that valuable information! We've had Renewal by Anderson, Pella and manufacturer reps for Marvin & Sunrise all come out to inspect our project and give us a quote.
[Site Editor's Answer]Vahe, between Marvin Integrity & Sunrise Restoration, my pick would definitely be the Restoration. This window will deliver better energy efficiency and uses a great fix of vinyl and fiberglass.
Marvin Integrity Fiberglass Or VinylWe're waiting on the quotes for Marvin Integrity & Sunrise Restoration Vinyl Series. We live in Bucks County, PA which is about 30 miles north of Philadelphia. We would sincerely appreciate any feedback you could give us as to which of the two window types you would recommendation and a rough ball park estimate.
[Site Editor's Answer]Vahe, between Marvin Integrity & Sunrise Restoration, my pick would definitely be the Restoration. This window will deliver better energy efficiency and uses a great fix of vinyl and fiberglass.
Marvin Integrity Series BidI have received a few quotes from different window companies. We live in a duplex on a horse farm in New Jersey that was built in the 80s. We have 15 windows that need replacing.
[Site Editor's Answer]Kellen two fo your bids stand out. The Okna 500 bid looks quite good and is very reasonably priced when compared to the other bids. The Marvin Integrity is too expensive at $20K, but the Integrity is a nice window nonetheless. The Simonton 5500 bid at $7.8K is also a good deal.
Marvin Integrity Ultrex vs. Paradigm 8300Hi, I am building new in Maine and trying to decide between Marvin Integrity All Ultrex and Paradigm 8300 windows.
[Site Editor's Answer]Jennifer, the Paradigm 8300 vinyl window is a good solid vinyl window. The Marvin Integrity All Ultrex is a good solid fiberglass window. Both will probably perform well with good installation. I would probably make the decision based on the installation company if those are my choices. Marvin has the better reputation for quality products over Paradigm.
Marvin Integrity vs. Milgard UltraI have narrowed down my choices to Milgard Ultra and Marvin Integrity.
[Site Editor's Response]Alina, the Marvin Integrity and the Milgard Ultra window are pretty close in terms of quality with the edge given to the Marvin Integrity.
Marvin Integrity vs. Crystal WindowsWe need to replace six windows, approx 4 inches x 77 inches each, in our Manhattan apartment (2nd floor of an old tenement-style building.) We have a contractor working on a renovation who will do the labor.
[Site Editor's Answer]I don't hear a ton about Crystal windows. From the little that I have heard, they seem to be a builder quality vinyl window. This means that they are built and marketed towards builders and contractors who are looking to put in a cheap vinyl window that will function well enough for the first handful of years, but will begin to break down in that year seven, eight, nine, 10. So the question you have to ask yourself is is it worth it to spend the $1700 on cheap windows knowing that you'll have to replace them probably in your tan or do you go with the more expensive windows that will probably last 20 to 25 years.
Marvin Integrity Fiberglass OptionI need to 8 sash replacement kits. I want to stay with wood windows since my original windows were wood clad. I've looked at Plygem windows but I need some more options here in Memphis.
[Site Editor's Answer]Donna, two suggests I might make include the Marvin Integrity, which has a wood interior option. The other is a Jeld Wen wood clad window. The Auralast treatment includes a lifetime warranty. I believe some of the Pella wood clad windows now use a treatment that also offers a lifetime warranty.
Marvin Integrity Window SizesHi, I’m wondering if you might have prices on 3 different sizes of Marvin Integrity windows. I basically had my upstairs done last year. Now want to finish off downstairs. There’s a new sales guy, he quoted my prices on the windows over 20% higher a year ago.
[Site Editor's Answer]Timothy, I don't have exact pricing on Marvin windows. I wish I could help you out on this count. That seems steep, 20% in one year. Here's a suggestion -- get another bid from another fiberglass manufacturer (or vinyl), hopefully one that is cheaper and then tell the Marvin rep that you're going to go with the other one and see if he'll come down on the price. If he won't budge and you still want Marvin, wait for a couple of weeks, call him back and go forward. Not quite sure if it'll work, but it's worth a shot.
Marvin vs Thermo-TechHaving purchased our house in 2014, we are now finding that we need to do full window replacement for the entire house. This would include 13 casement windows, 3 sliding patio doors, and one patio with swinging doors.
[Site Editor's Answer]That's so interesting that Marvin and Thermotech with the full frame came in cheaper than the Simonton and Ply Gem. The full replacement install is the more thorough of the approaches so let's stick with these two bids -- cheaper to boot. The Marvin Integrity is a good fiberglass window, although I would ask about the Infinity cost for the same job. Some reps don't have access to the Infinity, but I would rather see you pay the extra (depending what they quote you out at) for the nicer Infinity -- in my experience the Infinity will run say $75 more per window, which might bump up your price by $1000 for the window portion -- definitely worth it in this ballpark range.
Marvin Integrity vs Andersen 100I'm replacing 4 sliders and 1 fixed window and am trying to decide between Anderson 100, Marvin Integrity, and Milgard Tuscany.
[Site Editor's Answer]Joanne, of the three options you have I like the Marvin Integrity the best. Then maybe the Andersen and finally the Milgard. I'm pretty split between the first two.
Marvin Integrity vs Pella 350I am replacing double hung windows in my kitchen. My quotes so far are $970 for the Marvin Integrity as a double slider and $1315 for the Pella 350 series sliding window
[Site Editor's Answer]Pat, I like the Marvin Integrity more than the Pella 350. Sounds like some expensive quotes though. You want to get some more bids. Okna, Sunrise, Simonton or Champion all might be available near you.
Marvin Integrity vs Simonton WindowsWe are building a house and I would like to use Marvin Intergity, while my husband prefers Simonton. Which is the better window?
[Site Editor's Response]Cheri, Marvin is usually considered the superior brands between these two companies. Simonton's premium vinyl windows are good and usually pretty affordable. Marvin is going to be more expensive, but they make a high quality product in their doors and windows.
Marvin Integrity Window Sizes And CostsI have decided that I want fiberglass windows. I have focused on Marvin Integrity and I got a quote on Infinity's also.
Integrity by Marvin ReviewWhen we built our home in 2013 we did some research and investigation into what windows to choose. We had seen Integrity Windows used locally and liked the appearance so much that I sent a letter to Integrity to request some additional information on their window line.
Marvin Integrity Windows ReviewHello, can you help? I built a Minnesota home in 2007 and purchased Marvin Integrity windows/gliders/wood interior. After 7 years the windows wood where the two windows meet when closed are turning black. Also, I feel draft in the winter time. Also, notice the screens do not cover properly keeping bugs out. I'm not taking about one window but six windows are having the same issue!! Very disappointed. Call dealer and getting the run around. Warranty on the windows is 10 years.
[Site Editor's Response]Wow, Randy, that is not good. What does the dealer say exactly? Did you stain and/or seal the interior wood? I hate to see you have to replace windows that are less than 10 years old! I would keep bugging them. The screens should be relatively easy to replace, although off the top of my head I can't remember if Marvin covers screens, I believe they do - but the two windows with the black at the corner welds is something else. Can you send me a couple of pictures so I can see the extent of the damage?
Marvin Integrity UltrexMy wood casement windows are rotting so I need replacements. I'm leaning towards Marvin Integrity, and the rep is suggesting Wood-Ultrex to keep a similar look to what I have now. I was thinking I'd rather have all Ultrex, since they are pretty much maintenance free, but the dealer said the way they are sealed, the wood doesn't need any maintenance, treatment and/oror painting. Is that true? Is a wood-Ultrex combo not going to require any maintenance? Or is the Ultrex more durable and better if I plan to keep the house for a long time?
[Contractor Response]Unless you have a humidity problem, the wood interior shouldn't rot or need any maintenance. Maybe paint every couple of decades, when you repaint the house anyway. If you have a humidity problem you'd know it, with a lot of sweating on the windows and eventually frame warping. The Ultrex exterior is really easy, paint it every 20-30 years and you're good.
Contractor EndorsementThe right window depends on where you are, what style of home you're building, and the materials you're working with, but I really like the Integrity by Marvin. It's a good fiberglass window with very good ratings. It's probably a bit out of your budget, but I can't really recommend going any cheaper. Bad windows are going to mess with the look of your home, energy bills, and can even lead to water damage and other problems. I don't think they're a good place to cut costs.
Marvin Integrity or Pella ImperviaI'm waffling between two products -- the Marvin Integrity or the Pella Impervia. It's for 14 casement windows. They seem like companies and both seem like good windows so I'm not exactly sure which one is the better option. I'd love to get your opinion on this.
[Contractor Response]Omar, the Marvin Integrity is the much better window over the Impervia. The Impervia is a flimsy frame in my opinion and simply not made as well as the Integrity.
Marvin Windows vs Kolbe LatitudeI'm looking at the Marvin Integrity All Ultrex Fiberglass and the Kolbe Latitude Vinyl. The Marvins are about a third more expensive. I think they're both good windows. Is the Marvin better? Is it better enough to pay that much more?
[Contractor Response]The Marvins are actually that much better if you can afford it. Kolbe makes a good product but they don't compare to Marvins. The ones you're looking at are very different. The Marvins are fiberglass, a much stronger and nicer material, and nothing looks better than Marvins. Right now there's nothing on the market at any price that I'd put above a Marvin.
Marvin Integrity vs Marvin InfinityI'm planning on an all fiberglass window from Marvin, either the Infinity or Integrity. From what I can tell the main difference is the price and the dealer. The features all seem to be the same to me. What's the real difference?
[Contractor Response]The main differences are in appearance. The Infinity has a 3 1/4" jamb and is designed for use as an insert. The Integrity, with a 4 9/16" jamb, is more often a full frame replacement. Both are good quality windows, though, so it's just a matter of preference.
[2nd Response]The Integrity has a either an Ultrex or wood interior and Ultrex exterior. With a ufactor of 0.30 and SHGC of 0.32, the numbers are decent but not stellar. I like the look of a wood interior, but it costs about 10% more than the all-fiberglass.
[Contractor Response]The Ultrex fiberglass should last forever. Look at fiberglass boats that have sunk and sat under salt water for years - they still look okay once you clean them up. Vinyl will wear out eventually, so it needs a longer warranty. The fiberglass just needs coverage long enough to make sure they were made and installed right. If there are any defects they should show up within 2 years or so.
Marvin Integrity Casement ReviewMy contractor was going to put in cheap vinyl windows, but I wanted a good wood interior. The problem was our budget. The Marvin Integrity was a little high, but we could swing the price, and they look so good, especially the casement with all the interior wood. They had a low-e coating and are argon filled. As long as they hold up, which I think they will since Marvin has a good reputation, we'll be thrilled with them.
Marvin Infinity Windows ReviewsThe Marvin Infinity fiberglass window comes in either the full Ultrex fiberglass frame or the Ultrex with an Everwood interior. Everwood is a wood veneer that closely mimics the look of wood, but doesn't require the maintenance of real wood. The Infinity will typically run $50 to $100 more than a comparable Integrity model, due to the thicker frame and the bells and whistles that come standard (worth it in my opinion).
Marvin Infinity Series vs. Okna 700We want a full frame replacement window and are considering fiberglass or vinyl. The best we've seen includes the Marvin Infinity series, Okna 700 and Zen Lotus. What would you say is the best window of these three? Thanks in advance.
[Site Editor's Answer]Jon, I really like the Marvin fiberglass windows, but they are about 30% more than the comparable vinyl window. Personally, I would list the windows in terms of overall quality as the Okna 700, the Marvin Infinity and then the Zen Lotus.
Marvin Fiberglass Windows In HoustonCould you please tell me the difference between fiberglass and composite window? Which one would be better for Houston TX climate? What window would you buy fiberglass or composite? Which window is the best to buy? My employer is looking to replace his windows and lives in a contemporary style house and has several large fix windows.
[Site Editor's Answer]Kim, here's a simple article that details the differences between fiberglass and composite windows.
Marvin Infinity vs. Renewal by AndersonHi Dane, we are getting quotes for replacing windows and would love your help in assessing if we are being offered a good deal or other options to consider.
[Site Editor's Answer]David, so far those are some pricey bids. It does sound like your project is going to be expensive though based on the three bids. Usually, the Renewal bid is double what I'd expect you to pay. I would hope you could find a high quality bid on a vinyl window for $1000 per window. The custom colors can get pricey though.
Marvin Infinity Pricing vs. Pella ImperviaI have 2 bids for 25 windows; either the Pella Impervia with an STC rating of 26 and air leakage of 0.18. The other option is the Marvin Infinity with an STC of 28 and air leakage of .19. Here are the two bid prices.
[Site Editor's Answer]Mikeal, the Marvin Infinity is the better window, no question. I find the Impervia frame flimsier than the Infinity and less well built. I would definitely pay the extra $3K for the Marvin over the Pella. However, I would go back to the Marvin dealer and ask him to match the Pella bid. Tell him that if he can do that, you are ready to sign the work order that day.
Marvin Infinity Fiberglass WindowsHi Tim, I really like Marvin fiberglass windows! I have 21 windows and two sliders and I could give you the measurements for a quote from you? Let me know if you could help me and would it be a local installer?
[Site Editor's Answer]Jeff, google "marvin infinity windows in [your city, state]" and see what companies come up. Call them up and have them come out and give you a quote. Bids from Marvin dealers are all over the board so it's tough to say where the bid will come in at. Make sure to tell the dealer/salesman that you are getting 3 to 4 bids and that you'd like their best bid as price is certainly an important factor. Hopefully this keeps the bid lower.
Marvin Infinity vs. Window Nation Imperial LSMy name is Brett I am looking at 14 pocket windows from window nation. What are your thoughts on $915 per window installed for the Soft-Lite Imperial LS? They are the triple pane window full screens. It seems high to me but I only have a quote on the Marvin Infinity for around $1500 per window.
[Site Editor's Answer]Brett, $915 installed is quite a price tag, about $150 to $200 per window too high on the face of it. Now that isn't to say that it's unreasonable, especially if you got a bid on the Marvin Infinity for $1500.
[Brett's Reply]Would it change much with tempered glass in some windows and grids in all the windows?
[Site Editor's Answer]Brett, tempered glass can cost as much as $100 per window, so yes that would change the calculus for sure. But again, that's where the additional bids come in. They will give you an apples-to-apples comparison between companies for the same set of components and upgrades on your project.
Marvin Infinity UIltrex vs Alliance HawthorneDane, we are replacing old casement windows on a rental unit. There are 31 windows to be replaced. To save money we are looking at switching to double hung and sliders. The three companies we are considering are Renewal by Anderson, Marvin Infinity and Alliance Hawthorne (Midway Windows).
[Site Editor's Answer]Steve, I'm not surprised at all that the Marvin Infinity quote is less than the Renewal By Andersen. RBA is one of the most expensive window on the market and frankly not deservedly so in my opinion. Marvin makes a very good window and I would be very happy with this option in my home. Personally, I think Marvin might be overkill for a rental, but of course that's your decision.
[Steve's Answer]Dane, Thanks for the response and advice. I am concerned that the all vinyl Midway window will warp. It is something that Marvin really talks about in their sales pitch. Is that a big concern? I plan to have a dark outer window frame.
[Site Editor's Answer]Steve, quality vinyl windows don't warp, unless they are in extreme heat or if the window is really wide. Most vinyl windows come with a lifetime warranty on the frame, while most fiberglass windows come with a warranty of 20 to 30 years. The warranty is kind of telling as to what the company thinks of the long term longevity of the product.
Marvin InfinityWe are remodeling our kitchen and are replacing 2 windows and a slider. We are quoting Marvin Infinity.
[Site Editor's Answer]Randy, seems very high. Check out some of the top vinyl windows like Sunrise, Soft-lite, or Okna. They have some very nice interior laminates that look close to wood, but don't require any maintenance.
Marvin Infinity vs Sunrise RestorationsWe need to replace 16 windows and have gotten bids from Renewals with Anderson and Marvin on the Infinity window. We plan on meeting with a Sunrise rep who sells the Sunrise Windows Restoration.
[Site Editor's Answer]Shelly the Sunrise Restorations has to be the winner in this battle of three. The Restorations offers a sleek frame and excellent energy efficiency. The Marvin Infinity is a very good fiberglass window and should hold up as well as the Sunrise Restorations.
Marvin Infinity vs Andersen 100 WindowsWe like Marvin fiberglass windows, but they are too expensive. Is the Anderson 100 window close in performance to the Infinity? We have estimates on both -- the Marvin at $25K and Anderson at $18K.
[Site Editor's Answer]Dervil, the Marvin Infinity is better than the Andersen 100 window. Neither of these windows is going to be as energy efficient as a top vinyl window, but the Infinity is generally regarded as one of the better fiberglass windows on the market.
Marvin Infinity vs Okna 800We have a traditional colonial style home and need some replacement windows. We've narrowed it down to the Okna 800 and Marvin Infinity. The Infinity is considerably more expensive -- $9K for 8 double hung windows compare to 5K with the Okna.
[Site Editor's Answer]Lisa, the Okna 800 is the better window from the perspective of energy efficiency. It might be a little bulkier though and if you want to have more glass area, then go with the Marvin Infinity. Its a very nice window as well and will hold up well over time.
Marvin Infinity Fiberglass ReplacementsOur Andersen double hung windows from the late 60s need to be replaced. We are in Ohio and are fine with any type of window. We were hoping you could make some recommendations.
[Site Editor's Answer]Corinna, you may want to check out Sunrise windows.
Marvin Infinity Window ReviewI'm planning on replacing 12 casements in NE Ohio plus a sliding glass door and 2 pictures. We're doing a tear out down to the studs, taking out the Pella windows that were installed in '73. There are a lot more to choose from than when we had those put in way back then. I want good windows but I also need a fair price and I was hoping for wood clad in vinyl or fiberglass. I know that Inline fiberglass windows and Marvin also makes a fiberglass window - which is better?
[Contractor Response]The Infinity is a good casement, and I think the fiberglass is a good choice. I think Inline just came out with a new design for their fiberglass casements, and it's supposed to have great engineering. If it isn't out yet it will be soon. Sunrise has a good one, also, with a lot of different material options. If it were me, I'd look at the Sunrise before making a decision, as they are generally one of the best windows out there. I don't like buying a new line, or at least one that's had major changes, so the Inline makes me nervous. I like to wait until they've had time to work out the kinks.
Marvin Infinity vs Soft-Lite ElementsMy home was built in 98. The builder's windows are double hungs and I get awful drafts, condensation and frost in the winters. Last year we ended up with mold inside the glass. In Michigan we have hot summers but very cold winters. I need new window but I have a tight budget. We're going to do the upstairs now and the downstairs later. I plan to sell in a few years so I don't need a super great window, just something that looks nice and will last a few years. I'm looking at either the SoftLite Elements in vinyl or the Marvin Infinity in fiberglass.
[Contractor Response]The Infinity is nice, but the Softlite Elements is much much better. The vinyl won't have issues from expansion and contracting, maybe if you had a window the size of a bus but not for a residential window. They are designed to last a long time. I've done an energy audit on a house with windows around 10 years old and they blew a 0 air infiltration.
Marvin Infinity vs SeriousSomeone asked if the Serious or Infinity is better. I guess it depends on what you're looking for in a window. Serious makes a great energy efficient window, but the price is very high. The Marvin Infinity looks really good, but doesn't perform at the same level. The Serious 1125 comes in a casement, picture, or awning style, and it's one of the best windows out there as far as energy efficiency, but you might have to sell the house to pay for new windows! Their 725 line has single and double hungs if that's what you need. But if you can't afford them, Marvin is a good choice. Another thing to remember is that your weather has a lot to do with what's the best choice. The right window for Miami is probably not the same as the best window in Minnesota.
Marvin Infininty vs ProviaI don't know a lot about Provia windows, but I do know their doors and I'm not a big fan. The Renewal by Andersen is okay, but not my favorite if you can afford something better. Look at Infinity, it is about the same price as RBA but miles better in every way. Sunrise and Gorell are also really good, if you can fit them in your budget, they are a little higher but they're worth it.
Best Utah Replacement WindowsI live in the mountains in Utah where the temperatures can be as low as -20 and as high as 100 in the summer. I need to replace all of our windows in our 22 year old home. I've looked at Renewal (very expensive), Pella, and now am researching Andersen. I'm open to others but not sure what's best (vinyl or wood). Can you make a recommendation? Thank you
[Site Editor's Response]Hi Lily, yes Renewal By Andersen prices tend to be at the very top of the cost spectrum. In terms of best windows, I would say that a high quality vinyl or fiberglass window would be your best bet. I believe Sunrise Windows are available in Utah, I believe yourwindowgurus.com sells Sunrise - I know nothing about this company, you may want to call Sunrise and ask them specifically about their install quality (their website leaves alot to be desired, but who knows what this means). I know that Milgard has a manufacturing plant in Salt Lake so they will certain cover the state. Soft-Lite would be the last recommendation.
Marvin Ultimate Windows ReviewsThe Marvin Ultimate window is a highly rated wood window that can be ordered as either an aluminum clad or as an all wood model. The aluminum clad option is the more expensive of the two options and the better of the two in terms of long term durability and maintenance requirements. The Ultimate window uses a real wood interior jamb liner (compare to the vinyl jamb liner on the Integrity), which is much nicer looking and can be stained to match the finish. Consumers can choose from the following interior wood options; white oak, mahogany, douglas pine, fir, and cherry.
Marvin Signature Copper Clad WindowsGood afternoon Dane,
[Site Editor's Answer]Hi Terry and Kathy, good to hear from you. Wood clad windows tend to be quite expensive and Marvin is definitely at the higher end of the price spectrum. I'm not surprised by the quote, the company does make a good wood window and yes that's probably market value for a set up like you were describing.
Marvin Ultimate or Pella Lifestyle WindowsI’m getting three quotes for replacement windows, Pella Lifestyle, Marvin Ultimate and Quaker Brighton. The new windows would be replacing 30 year old Oldach Wood windows. I live in Colorado and most of the windows receive direct sun light.
I’ve read your reviews but found none on the Quaker windows.
I’m also considering getting a quote from Lowe’s. Do you think this would be worthwhile and which of the brands they carry do you recommend.
Thank you.
[Site Editor's Answer]Joan, I'm not a big fan of the Pella Lifestyle wood clad window. I think if you are going to use a wood clad, I would recommend the Andersen 400 series, Marvin Ultimate or the Jeld Wen aura last wood clad windows. Personally, I don't think wood offers much in terms of long term value or performance. I do understand that there is a big draw to wood clad windows in terms of overall aesthetics.
Marvin Ultimate Window CostsDane - good evening. I'm interested in replacing 5 living room windows (2 that currently push open). I'd like to replace with wood interior and aluminum clad exterior. I was looking at both Weather Shield and Marvin but prefer the later (more lite styles and hardware options), and frankly better overall reviews for service after installation as far as I can tell after doing some preliminary research.
[Site Editor's Answer]Jonathan, in the bay area, a wood clad fiberglass window like the Ultimate from Marvin will likely be expensive, $1200 per window would be my guess. Wood clad, Marvin, the economy, are all sort of working to drive prices up on you. Marvin does make a great wood window though.
[Jonathan's Reply]Thanks Dane, appreciate the quick response. We are looking at Marvin's Ultimate line but the exterior is aluminum clad vs fiberglass. I'm aware of the premium for Marvin but they have designs and hardware that meet our needs. A couple of quick questions:
[Site Editor's Answer]Jonathan, I did misspeak, they do use an aluminum cladding on their Ultimate series. The pricing tool uses 6 inputs to generate a price. In real life, there are going to be 20 or more inputs to what price you are paying--lineal foot or size being the biggest factor. It would be no use to put this on the website though because it's so cumbersome for most people to use. The multiple estimates for your particular project is the best way to see the fair market price contractors or dealers in your area are going to charge.
Marvin Ultimate G2 Replacement WindowsRe: Hi Dane, I have 11 windows to replace in a small ranch. I am considering the Marvin Ultimate G2 replacement window. Six of the windows are small windows I consider them half windows and the other 5 windows are normal full size windows no more than 54" high . I live in Western Ma. Springfield area. Who would you think the best contractor would be in this area to install the windows. Best regards.
[Site Editor's Answer]Roman, the Marvin Ultimate G2 is a very fine window and one that I would gladly have in my own home. I would call your local Marvin dealer to find out who services your area. You can use their website, which has a “Find A Dealer” button at the top to find a list of local dealers.
Marvin Ultimate Insert WindowsI own a San Francisco rental property that requires me to replace the windows with either aluminum or all wood windows.
[Site Editor's Answer]Marilyn, you definitely have some doable options here. The Marvin tilt pacs will work if the openings haven't shifted to much. You need to find an experienced installer who is comfortable making this judgement and installing the tilt pacs. It can be a tricky business but if the house is fairly old then it probably did most of its settling before and you should be okay.
Marvin Ultimate Next Generation vs. Jeld Wen AuralastTim, we are replacing five wood windows. I’ve received two quotes:
[Site Editor's Answer]Ken, wood windows are difficult to maintain in your area because of the heat and humidity. If you are set on wood clad windows, these are both nice options. The Jeld Wen should come with a lifetime warranty on the wood. However, the Marvin Ultimate is a great window. I think you need a few more opinions to make this call.
Marvin Ultimate vs. Zen Classic & Pella 400We're shopping for 17 double hung windows, 10 of which are oversized. Our home is located in Tennessee and is a colonial style. Renewal By Andersen gave us a quote of $27.5K, Sierra Pacific gave us a quote for $9K, while Marvin ultimate came in at $17.3K.
[Site Editor's Answer]Neil, the Renewal quote seems too high to justify. Sierra Pacific makes an okay product but nothing all that impressive. I would put the Marvin Ultimate quote a the top of your options in this case.
Marvin Ultimate vs. Kolbe & Kolbe VistaluxeDane, I have a large, high-end home in Cherry Hills Village, CO. I am looking into replacing my double-pane, original wood windows with new, wood windows (and some doors) that have either extruded aluminum cladding, or possibly composite external cladding. Colorado’s climate with high sun-exposure constantly destroys the paint on my windows, requiring a lot of upkeep.
[Site Editor's Answer]Hi James, in terms of high end wood windows, I would give the nod to the Marvin Ultimate, Andersen 400 Woodwright, Pella Designer, Kolbe and Kolbe VistaLuxe, and Loewen Standard wood window. I have heard good things about Semco, but I don't know enough to say one way or another. These are the top wood windows in my book, but there are others out there that are well made, but VERY expensive.
Marvin Ultimate Clad vs. Renewal By AndersenHello Dane, wanted to send you a note of thanks, as your site helped me to save a lot of money and, frankly, embarrassment. I am replacing 7 windows on my townhouse, and had RBA (RbA of Long Island) give me an estimate. They called twice ahead of the appointment to confirm that my wife would be there. When he arrived, the salesman insisted he was not really a sales guy at all, but rather worked in their Quality Assurance dept and just happened to be the only guy free for the Sunday appointment. Then he gave a very long, very slick pitch about how bad vinyl and wood windows were, and how RBA is the best window. He had an iPad with a bunch of videos on it, and went back to his truck to get windows samples, leaving me to watch some videos.
[Site Editor's Answer]Hi Daniel, sorry you had to go through that miserable sales presentation. RBA tends to have a good name because their product is good...but it's not $2000 good. In fact, their frame is more or less the same as the Andersen 100 composite window that you can buy at Home Depot for $325 a window. Assume $150 for installation (which ought to be at the higher end for a normal replacement) and you're looking at $475 completely installed. The 100 Andersen isn't quite as good as the RBA, but throw in a few upgrades and it's more or less the same window. Ironically, the RBA and Andersen composite is made of vinyl and wood...
[Daniel's Response]Thanks Dane, much appreciated. The installer I'm working with carries Okna and we've discussed their windows. I asked them about Infinity, and they said they don't carry that, only Integrity. I'm inclined to use the dealer/installer that I've gotten the bid from because I know several people personally who've worked with them, and all of them had positive things to say about the professionalism and the quality of the work. If I were going based on window quality, I would definitely look seriously at high-end vinyl options and/or fiberglass--I've been researching all the brands you guys recommend highly on the site. Window quality and appearance is not the only factor I'm weighing heavily.
Marvin Ultimate vs. Pella Architect SeriesWe are building a house and are wanting to install black exterior frames, wood interior. Our builder has suggested Pella architect series. A friend suggested we price Marvin’s line. Their salesman suggested that the Pella architect series black frame had a problem with fading.
[Site Editor's Answer]Jennifer, all frames will fade over time, that's just how the sun works. I've never heard that Pella fades more or less than any other company. Marvin carries two real wood interior options, the integrity with the wood interior or the Ultimate wood series. I would get a quote on both of them if I were you. The Pella Architect series is very nice, but it isn't cheap. I also like the Andersen 400 series. Jeld Wen makes a wood window that comes with a lifetime warranty (compared to most wood windows that come with a 20 year warranty) and I believe they offer quite a number of exterior frame colors.
Marvin Wood Window ReviewWe are replacing 18 different window openings with a total of 28 windows (10 of the openings have an awning at the bottom. We currently have wood windows that have some evidence of rot on the wood exterior and some with rot at the bottom of the casement. These are large windows that cover spans ranging from 145 inches wide up to 85 inches in height. Those spans are in either 2,3 or 4 window segments. We have received quotes from Marvin Windows for their aluminum clad wood windows ($37,400), Pella Proline ($26,300), Pella Architect series ($31,600) and Sunrise Restoration series ($28,500). The sunrise were the only vinyl windows.
[Site Editor's Response]Jeremy, as much as vinyl is boring to look at - certainly in comparison to beautiful new wood - I have to say that I would go with the Sunrise Restoration - cheaper, better performance numbers, less maintenance, better warranty, better durability. I'd like to see that $1000 per window come down some if possible. If you do decide to go with vinyl, get a few more bids and take a less expensive one and go back to the Sunrise dealer and try to use the lower bid price as a leverage to see how much he will come down in price. "I really want to go with you and I like the windows, but they are a bit out of my price range. What can we do to work on that per window cost?"
Marvin Ultimate vs Renewal By AndersenUnfortunately I don't think Sunrise Windows are available in Utah -- at least not in Salt Lake City. I am not dead set on vinyl. We did an in home estimate with Advanced Window products, as well as Renewal by Andersen. My gut feeling with RBA is that the product is amazing, but probably still overpriced. The current windows I'm researching are the Anderson 400 series, Marvin Ultimate, Marvin Infinity, and the Advanced Window Products Vinyl window. Obviously I'm not even dead set on wood, vinyl, etc. Any suggestions to narrow this down to "the one"? We are planning to get into a few showrooms to play with the actual windows soon and hopefully that helps. Our project in planned for about a year from now.
[Site Editor's Response]Steph, the RBA windows are usually way overpriced and not really worth the huge price tag in my opinion. The Marvin Ultimate is one of my favorite wood windows. I like the Infinity with the Everwood interior a lot. That would probably be my pick, as long as you like how the interior looks. It isn't wood, but it also doesn't come with all of the potential issues that wood can prevent down the road.
Marvin Ultimate vs Kolbe WindowsI was wondering if you have window recommendations for windows sold in Northern California? I sent your website a review for some terrible Jeld-Wen windows that had installed into our new house. Because of their leaking, we're going to tear them out and replace them. So far, I'm looking at Marvin Ultimate and Kolbe & Kolbe Ultra windows. Do you have any additional recommendations for clad wood windows?
[Editor's Response]Both Marvin and Kolbe are very well regarded -- Windsor tends to be a less expensive wood window, but I'm not sure I would recommend it when you have those two options in front of you. Have you gotten a quote on the Marvin Integrity with the real wood interior (as opposed to the all Ultrex Integrity)?
Marvin Ultimate vs Pella Architect SeriesMe and my wife were looking at the Pella Architectures and the Marvin Ultimates. We ended up going with the Marvins. The Pella was actually a little more with all the upgrades we wanted, and a lot of them came standard on the Marvins. We liked the Marvin features, and they use more wood and less aluminum. The main decider was the customer service. The Pella rep missed his first appointment, and when we went to the showroom the salespeople didn't seem to know much, they had to keep looking numbers up. The Marvin people were much better all around. We had them installed a few months ago, and everything went perfectly. They look great and we couldn't be happier.
Marvin Ultimate ReviewThe HiMark is better than the Simonton as far as looks and appearance. If you want a premium window and aren't in love with the HiMark, then the Marvin Ultimate is a good option. The Soft-Lite Imperial LS are top tier, too, but they still aren't better than HiMark or Okna.
Marvin Patio Door ReviewsMarvin Integrity Sliding Glass DoorsI'm looking for windows and sliding glass door, highest quality with most glass. For the three panel sliding door I saw the sunrise restoration (thicker frame).
[Site Editor's Answer]Julia, the Sunrise Restoration and Marvin Integrity are both good windows and doors. The Restorations series is the better quality of the two in my opinion, but the Integrity is a good product as well.
Marvin Patio DoorsWe want a vinyl door or fiber glass one. But both the local contractor and HD said the doors are not standard size and need to be customized. Soft lite does not do customized doors in vinyl or fiber glass, hence the wood one by Marvin. A third contractor quoted $4500 only for smooth fiber glass patio door from Great Lakes. Is Great Lakes a good product? Do you think it is a better idea to have the windows and doors done by different contractors?
[Site Editor's Response]Jackie, I don't think it's imperative to have the windows and doors done by the same company, as long as the different look of the hardware doesn't bother you. Great Lakes generally makes a good product, depending on the window model you select. In all honesty, I don't know much about the quality of their doors, I would imagine they are solid. What I would do is ask for the U-factor and air leakage numbers and see how they compare to the Marvin.
Marvin Tilt/Pacs Window ReviewsMarvin Insert OpinionThank you for getting back to me. I am looking at Marvin inserts. The Marvin’s etc are inserts so not tearing the frames out.
[Site Editor's Answer]If you like the Marvin inserts and the openings are still plumb enough to make it work then I think that's a good route. Just make sure that the installer has experience and knows what he's doing. I've heard some bad stories about the windows not quite working because the openings had shifted a little too much.
General Marvin Window ReviewsMarvin Fiberglass Windows In DnverHi Dane, Found your site today. What a wealth of information. Thank you.
[Site Editor's Answer]Scott, no real concerns in terms of vinyl as a material in the higher elevations, although a low quality vinyl product will deteriorate at a faster clip. Vinyl, fiberglass and composites would all work. Let's say it this way, there are plenty of locations that see huge temp fluctuations: Chicago, Pittsburgh, New York -- but all those places have factories that make thousands of quality vinyl windows.
Marvin or Enerlux?What makes the restoration window better than the marvin in terms of quality?
[Site Editor's Answer]Better in terms of energy efficiency. It's a nice mix of vinyl and fiberglass, with reinforcement through the sash and rail. A very nice unit. Marvin is very good too, but not as energy efficient.
Marvin Sunrise, And Jeld Wen ComparisonsI wrote a couple of weeks ago. We are replacing 15-20 Wenco Jeld-Wen casements installed 17 years ago. Bottom stiles started disintegrating in 2007. Wenco replaced several at that time under warranty but Jeld-Wen not willing to stand behind warranty after they merged. We have been exploring your website and have found it very informative and quite helpful
[Site Editor's Answer]Joyce, I would certainly put Marvin and Sunrise above Jeld Wen in terms of quality and craftsmanship. Sunrise would be my pick, they make an excellent vinyl window. Marvin makes good fiberglass windows that are going to be more expensive. I have heard good things about the AuraLast wood, but I don't think it's been around long enough to say for sure whether it will last for 20 to 30 years. It's still wood, which is an organic material that doesn't offer the same energy efficiency or the long term durability of a quality vinyl. But it does look quite nice :)
Marvin Windows ComplaintHi Tim, (Just realized I typed in the wrong email address below, have corrected it) I'm impressed with your website, I've just read through most of it......I hope you and Dane can help me with my " problem". When I built my custom home in 2004, I made the rather large investment of installing all Marvin windows and French doors. I have numerous slide-by windows, Tilt/Turn windows, fixed random-sized windows, and 5 crank-out awning windows.
[Site Editor's Answer]Nancy, unfortunately I don't see that you have much recourse with Marvin based on the warranty terms and timeline. This is one of the issues that can crop up with relying on warranties, they often come with so many caveats (especially at the 10 year + mark) that they often seem like they aren't worth the paper they're written on.
[Nancy's Reply]Tim, Thanks for your quick response.....I did have another reputable window company (local) come look at it, and give me an estimate.....he didn't feel that he was able to do it, because it's not a matter of just replacing the glass, the entire aluminum/wood clad framing would have to be replaced to. He had never attempted to fix a window like this, and he was afraid he would botch it.
Marvin vs Amerimax WindowsWe are replacing 37 windows in our home in Colorado. Altitude is 7400ft, and temperatures range from 95 in summer to -20 in winter....humidity is low in all seasons. Please give me a recommendation on what would work for us. 37 is a lot of windows and sales men are confusing us with every turn. Some say vinyl are no good for us. Would like your advise as to what would be the best direction to go. Thank you for your help. Debbie.
[Site Editor's Response]Debbie, I must admit that I always feel a bit out of my element giving advice on the elevation question because I don't live and have never worked in high altitude areas. The biggest issue is the argon gas in the IGU that if manufactured at a low altitude and then transported to a high altitude could break the seals. There are capillary tubes that they use to help adjust for the difference in pressure and from what I've heard, it shouldn't be a big deal, although I like the idea of the windows being manufactured at altitude to make this a non issue.
Marvin Infinity vs Milgard UltrasWe're replacing many of our 30-year-old Anderson windows in our coastal Northern California home. We're considering Milgard Ultras and Marvin Infinity. Exposure to storm winds and sea salt are considerations. Which would you recommend?
[Site Editor's Response]Judy, I would say you have the two windows I would have recommended. Marvin has the stronger name in the industry, but I consider Milgard to be a very good manufacturer and they are definitely the stronger presence in California - the company operates 4 manufacturing plants throughout the state. So which one? I think it comes down to who is doing the install, price point, and personal preference - in that order.
Let me know what you decide - I would love to see how these two compare on price!
Marvin vs Pella WindowsWe need to replace 32 windows in our house (replacing Caradco wood clad windows, approx. 20 years old - 50% have broken seals). Looking at Pella Vinyl 350 series & Marvin Infinity or Integrity. Any thoughts on which is best. We are looking for good quality, best bang for the dollar. Thanks.
[Site Editor's Response]Russ, I would put the Marvin Integrity and Infinity firmly over the Pella 350 series for overall design and craftsmanship. I happen to like the Infinity over the Integrity model, but take a look at them side by side yourself (assuming the person you are dealing with has access to both models) to check out the differences between the two. The Infinity Everwood (interior wood grain, not real wood) is pretty darn realistic looking and comes in 8 different wood stains and grains that can match your interior color scheme nicely. Here is a link to explore the differences in more details.
Marvin or Beechworth WindowsWe are replacing four palladian windows measuring 38x90. They are going to be picture windows. Prices range from $1700 to $3500 per window.
[Site Editor's Response]Janet, thanks for the question, you have some interesting and solid options on the table. Here is my take.
Marvin Infinity Windows CostI had a Marvin salesman in my home recently and I was quoted $1,185 for Infinity windows and 50 year warranty. Your cost sheet had the window much lower than this so how current is your Marvin window pricing?
[Editor's Response]Rachel, we have been updating our window cost sheet to a per square foot pricing model to make for a more accurate pricing. Our price ranges are for an average sized window with normal installation. There are so many variables that can push that number up or down. (Installation per opening can run $65 to $250 depending on the condition of the frame and sills, whether you want external capping etc. - almost $200 just in installation). There are grids, screen, glass packages, fills, spacer systems, frame color upgrades and warranty upgrades.
Marvin Windows vs Alpen HHWe live in Virginia and are rebuilding our home virtually from the ground up. As far as windows, we have a quote on the Marvin Integrity casement using the all ultrex fiberglass frame (we considered going with the wood but it seemed easier to stick with the Ultrex interior). I'm comparing the Integrity with the Alpen 525 Series and would like to compare the U-factor, SHGC, AI, etc. We have also looked at Inline, but the lead time is nearly 3 months so that's going to work for us. Finally, we have been considering the HiMark casement as a lower cost alternative. Any opinions would be much appreciated.
[Contractor Response]Well, Daniel, you have some good options that you're looking at. Let's start with Marvin, which is a solid company that manufactures good fiberglass windows. Just out of curiosity, why are you going with the Integrity line? The Marvin Infinity Series is a better window, especially if you are going with the Ultrex interior. I would suggest at least getting a bid from the Infinity dealer in your area to see how that compares.
Marvin vs. Sunrise WindowsMarvin windows are widely considered one of the best brands on the market. While there are some differences from one Marvin line to the next, they are almost always going to win out when compared to any other brand with similar features. The Sunrise Restoration is one of the few that beats it, with way lower air infiltration numbers. One factor many people overlook is what they numbers are on a 10 year old window as opposed to one that's sitting in a showroom. There's a lot of debate as to what has the best stats after a few years of use.
Marvin vs Eagle WindowsLincoln has a clad double hung with a 0.01 AI, but it isn't as good as the R-4. The Eagle is good, but I don't really like their double hung sill. The Peachtree 700 series isn't as good as the Eagle. I would look at a Marvin, they are in a whole separate class. You'll pay more, but they are worth a premium price.
Marvin Window ComplaintsI put in Marvin Integrity double hungs a year or so ago, and they had some air leaking around the sashes. It's the same with every window in the house. I checked them out and I can't find any problems with the way I installed them, but the windows just aren't well made. Given Marvin's good reputation, I was surprised.
Marvin vs MilgardI've done a lot of jobs with the Milgard Ultra and the Marvin Infinity. They are both really good, but they have their strengths and weaknesses. They both make a good casement, but the infinity is a better double hung. Milgard has a better warranty, but I think that a lot of times companies that have a good warranty do it because they need it. You don't need a good warranty if the window doesn't have problems. I think warranties are there to protect the company, not their customers. They keep people from being too upset when there's a problem. Both of them are well made and look good. I think most people would be happy with either option.
Marvin vs. LincolnWe have Lincolns on part of our home and Marvins on another. The Marvins cost a good bit more, but we haven't had any real problems with them. A small crack was replaced immediately with no hassles, and our rep messed up our rebate, but Marvin honored it anyway, which was really cool. The Lincolns, on the other hand, are leaky and drafty. The condensation is unbelievable and they keep insisting that we have a humidity problem, which is funny because our Marvins don't.
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