installed Simonton would be 37,250
The Midway installer is Coast 2 Coast.
I can't say I trust Google reviews as they all ask for a good review to offer extra discount.
Do you have recommended installers for the brands you suggest in my area? zip code 46311
Dana - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Dana, it sounds like Coast 2 Coast didn't want to deal with replacing the difficult windows -- that's a mark against them in my book. The bid price isn't thrilling either.
Yes, online reviews can be skewed, but I do think they are a good indicator of the overall quality if there are enough reviews in the mix. Consumers are more apt to give a bad review than a good one so even if the company incentivizes god reviews, if they screw up, they are going to get burned by dissatisfied consumers. But yes, I always read them with a grain of salt.
The only specific recommendation I have for your area is this one [company name pulled]. I know this company does excellent work and sells the Okna Starmark -- but he is not inexpensive and has lots of work. Having said that, I would still get a bid and see what he says.
I know it's a process, but let's do it right and get you good windows at a good price that will last you 40 years!
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Midway Envirosealed Windows
I received a quote for 36 windows at $35k total before tax. Triple pane, white vinyl, square grids, double hung, insignia apex windows – supply and install – lifetime warranty for us (they say they'll replace even if a ball goes through....) and 30 year for other owner. I live in charlotte and we would like to stay in our home for the next 10 years at least, if not longer potentially. Since not cold climate...could save money with double pane
Should I replace all windows at once – several are already failing – seals. Windows were installed when house was built built - new construction in 2001 – now 20 years old and thinking the rest may start to loose seals. Really no water damage issues or concerns with existing windows.
Does this sound reasonable?
Any recommendations? Thanks.
Ben - Homeowner - from 2021
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Hi Ben, I'm thinking you can do better. At almost $1000 a window, that's pricey -- although I will say that lately the prices have been pretty crazy...
As to whether you should replace all at one fell swoop, that's a tricky one. I have a stucco home, so I would have to do it in one shot to deal with any damage to the stucco, color matching the stucco, etc. So less from the persepctive of the windows and more from the persepctive of what it takes to do the work and make it look good.
Some companies will give you a discount based on the number of windows and some companies have window minimums so all good things to think about. Having said all that, as long as you are getting say three or more windows at one time from an established company in your area, you should be fine.
I'd certainly get a couple more bids to see how they compare to the Apex quote.
Here is my list of good and great windows:
[List Redacted -- contact us directly (Dane or Tim) for our good and great windows list.]
Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Midway Windows vs Pella
Hi John, really appreciate your feedback. We've done some digging and come down to these two options. Sorry to ask you to comment on a tight timeline again but the sale pricing on the Pella option ends tomorrow.
For reference, we have 18 total windows and installation will be full frame replacement with double hung vinyl windows and prices include exterior trim / replacement interior trim and tear out / haul away of the old windows.
-Pella 250 Series: $12,300
-Midway Envirosealed Windows: $14,600
I'm sure you're very familiar with the Pella's but here's a link to the website for the Envirosealed windows just in case.
Do you have a quick recommendation and/or comment on these quotes?
Thank you so much for your time and assistance!
Best Regards.
Derek - Homeowner - from 2021
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Derek, the Midway Envirosealed Window is a good window from evrything I know (which is some, but not alot, more anecdotal than anything.) Personally, I would go with the Midway Envirosealed over the Pella 250 for the additional $2.3K if you plan to be in your home for longer than say 8 to 10 years. Under that time, I would go the Pella route. Both solid choices with professional installation...
Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Midway Windows Reviews
Hello Dane, do you have any more current information on Midway? Most of your comments indicate that from what you've heard, Midway is pretty good, etc.
But, do you have a review?
Also, I'm assuming it to be in the middle range of cost and quality...but is this correct? What other products would you put in the same class...but recommend as equal or even better?
Thank you for your response.
Steve - Homeowner - from 2020
[Website Editor Reply]
Steve, I wish I knew more about Midway, but I really don’t. They seem to enjoy a good reputation and their Premium model windows seem solid. That’s about the most I can really say.
Other manufacturers around that area include Sunrise, Harvey Windows, Okna, Vytex, Vinylmax, and Soft-Lite. These would be the solid brands that I would say to look for when you go out looking for quotes.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2020
Midway Alliance Hawthorne
I am getting costs between these two windows, 4 x casements over a picture and a single slider in vinyl basic white. I am guessing that they will be close.
Just want the best window the I can get. The installer will be the same regardless of the quote for the windows. He comes highly recommended from various sources. It will be a complete new construction install ripping out the old windows. complete new install no pocket install.
Any opinions between Simonton 5500 vs Midway Alliance Hawthorne.
I think these choices would be better than the Jeld Wen and Anderson 100 or Pella that I can get from the the Big Box Stores.
Andrzey - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Andrzey, I would probably rate those two windows similarly. I myself would probably go with the Simonton 5500, just because I know what I'm getting more than with the Midway Alliance Hawthorne. Alliance doesn't have the best reputation with credible industry insiders, but I do know that Midway tends to have a pretty darn solid reputation. Basically, Midway is one of a number of regional manufacturers that uses Alliance. Alliance Windows Reviews
I checked the Alliance website and these were the performance numbers they had listed for the Alliance Hawthorne window using the low-e 270 glass -- U-factor .27, .28 SHGC, .53 VT, and .12 AI (air infiltration). These aren't bad numbers, but certainly nothing amazing.
I think you are right to like the Simonton 5500 over Jeld Wen and Pella vinyl windows from the big box store. It is probably a toss up for with the Andersen 100 window and the Simonton 5500.
I think the bottom line is this -- Simonton makes a good vinyl window that isn't the sexiest product out there, but it gets the job done. With good installation, I would have the 5500 series in my house and feel like a got some pretty good value for my money.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
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Dane, thats what I was thinking after reading some more, still getting quotes, if Marvin Integrity come in close I think I will go with them, or better still if I managed to convince the Sunrise dealer to sell direct to me without his install at a reasonable price. I will choose them.
The problem I had will all "Dealers" is that they wanted to do pocket installation and a what I call a "Proper" replacement was an "Arm and Leg"
The Marvin Integrity is a good window, but not worth double what the Simonton 5500 is worth…I would still hold out and see what the Sunrise dealer is willing to do. I really like the Sunrise window, it's a solid step above the 5500.
Andrzey - Homeowner - from 2017
Midway Windows vs Vista
We are replacing all 19 of the vinyl windows in our house. Two windows are large half-rounds.
I contacted three companies for quotes. I've received two but the third company uses the same vinyl window brand as one of the other two so I feel my questions are regarding two types of windows - Vista Panorama and Midway EnviroSealed.
I've found lots of information on your site about Vista Panorama and it sounds like a decent window, but I haven't found much about Midway or its EnviroSealed window. I've been told that the Midway window is basically a "souped up" Alliance Hawthorne. Rep said he chose this window for value (we plan to move in a year or two) and metal support in sash because we have a few wide windows.
I've also read about the Alliance window "conglomerate" but the company offering the Midway windows says that Midway is a better window than the Alliance reputation. They just are in this alliance that has some not so great other windows.
Can you tell me anything else about Midway and their EnviroSealed window?
Also...the estimates are Vista Panorama $10,800 and Midway $12,500 Both have Low E-argon gas but the Vista estimate comes with a free upgrade (?) of super spacers between the glass.
Both companies were recommended on Angies List and seem to have good reviews. Midway company has been around 50 years. Vista company 10 years.
Julia - Homeowner - from 2016
[Site Editor's Answer]
Vista makes a pretty decent window, although the Panorama has a .20 air infiltration, which is much higher than I'd like to see. I like to see a .08 and lower, but you are getting what you pay for. All in all, I would rate the Panorama as a middle of the road vinyl window.
I don't hear much about Midway, but what I do hear from them tends to be pretty good. The numbers on the EnviroSealed look good, although I couldn't find the air infiltration, which is (one of) the numbers that I really like to look at to compare window brands and models. I'm assuming it's better, maybe in the .12 to .08 range, but this is my conjecture – I would definitely ask for the DP, VT, CR and AI numbers on this window and have the salesman explain each one.
The spacer is always something they taut, but honestly it's worth like $20 max on an upgrade. My gut tells me that the Midway is worth the extra money, but I think you need a second opinion from someone who knows these brands a bit better.
The EnviroSealed website provides very little information on the specific features of the window and I don't know much more. From the little I saw and know, I would say it's a better window than the Panorama, but how much I can't say with any assuredness.
Feel free to send me any additional bids and I can give you my two cents I feel like that's about all that I provided here ☹.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2016
Midway EnviroSealed vs Soft-Lite Verde Window
Dane, I'm still waiting a a Soft-Lite quote from a local distributor, but I did get a quote from the local Sunrise dealer. Ouch! The model quoted was the Verde line. That quote came in at 2.25 times the quote that came in for the Simonton Brickmould 600 series windows (sold via Norandex). Is the Sunrise window really 2x better of a window; even with a lifetime, non-pro-rated warranty against defects in the frames, hardware, and glass (including seal failures)? The same dealer that quoted the Sunrise window also quoted a Midway EnviroSealed window that was a little less than twice the Simonton window, but that still seems like a pretty steep premium.
Scott - Homeowner - from 2016
[Site Editor's Response]
Scott, the Sunrise Verde is certainly a better window than the Simonton ProFinish 600 model. Now whether it is worth two and a half times more is a different question. My own opinion is probably not. Let's assume that the ProFinish is going to run $300 fully installed. That would mean you are looking at $750 per window full installed, which feels a high to me. I like the Sunrise Verde over the Midway EnviroSealed, although this is quite a nice vinyl window as well. I would like to see you get a couple more quotes to see how the prices stack up, I think this will provide you with some more perspective on your dilemma. Once you get the quotes, let me know and we can work it out from there.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2016
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