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Sunrise Windows And Doors
The company's entry level series is the Essentials, which uses a less substantial frame from the Sunrise Classic or Standard series. While not a bad option, consumers looking to maximize long term value should consider stretching into the "Sunrise" standard series.
All of their upgraded series (Verde, Vanguard and Restorations) use the same frame as the Sunrise standard, but each series includes certain upgrades (see the individual window write ups for the specifics). Sunrise's premium series is the Restorations, which is one of the top rated vinyl windows that money can buy. Finally, the company manufactures the Coastal window series, which is an impact windows. Click for our hurricane windows cost page.
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Sunrise Windows Reviews :: Essentials Series
The Essentials series is the company's entry level option, although it's still probably a better window than some companies mid range vinyl series. The Essentials uses a constant force balance system and a true sloped sill, which is a nice design feature -- much better than weep holes. The Essentials uses a less durable extrusion and sash design than the upgraded Sunrise models, and this will affect the overall strength and longevity of the window.
Performance wise, the Sunrise Essentials delivers a .29 U-value, .27 SHGC, .09 air infiltration, and .56 visible transmittance. These are very good numbers for an entry level window. The Essentials series is available in a limited number of colors and it only comes in a double hung, slider, and picture window. Most homeowners would do well to stretch to the Standard Sunrise model. I would give the Sunrise Essentials Series Window a out of 5 stars rating.
Dane - Site Editor
Sunrise Essential vs Vanguard
HI Dane, thank you so much. 3 more quick questions and then I will leave you alone, so I can figure this out.
Would you even consider a Sunrise Essential (rough price $14,500 same installer as the Vanguard). I really have no idea on how long I will be here, so that’s my challenge.
Am I ok with either Block/Tackle or Constant Force? Do you recommend one over the other?
Berlinda - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Berlinda, it's no bother at all. The Sunrise Essential is not the same quality as the Vanguard in my opinion -- I would definitely say the Vanguard is worth the upgrade cost here.
Yeah, the timeline should be a factor -- but a good installer and the Wincore 7700 series is not a bad combination at all. It's a $5K savings, which I'm not sure how important that is to you. It's a toss up for me with that price difference between the Vanguard and the Wincore...it's quite a spread...
Block/Tackle or Constant Force. They are both good and manufacturers have chosen one over the other. It's less important which system they use and more important the overall quality of the window. I wouldn't get bogged down on this detail.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Windows Reviews On The Essentials
Dave, I recently got a quote for Sunrise standard series inserts that came to $2,100 per window opening, including cost of wrapping the exterior trim with aluminum. The same company quoted about $1,500 per window for the essentials series. Both quotes include double hung windows with upper sash grids.
I know pricing is crazy right now and hard to pin down but this seems high to me, and the difference between Essentials and Standard series seems too great. I'd like to stretch for the standard sunrise and hoping other installers might come in lower. Any thoughts you have are much appreciated! Feel free to share this on your site!
Wes - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Wes, I might keep the Sunrise as a back up, but I would search for some more bids before you settle for $2K an opening. That's Renewal By Andersen type of pricing.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Essentials vs Standard Pricing
Dave, I recently got a quote for Sunrise standard series inserts that came to $2,100 per window opening, including cost of wrapping the exterior trim with aluminum. The same company quoted about $1,500 per window for the essentials series. Both quotes include double hung windows with upper sash grids. I know pricing is crazy right now and hard to pin down but this seems high to me, and the difference between Essentials and Standard series seems too great. I'd like to stretch for the standard sunrise and hoping other installers might come in lower. Any thoughts you have are much appreciated! Feel free to share this on your site!
Wes - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Wes, I might keep the Sunrise as a back up, but I would search for some more bids before you settle for $2K an opening. That's Renewal By Andersen type of pricing. I will go ahead and send you my preferred list of windows for you to peruse.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Windows vs Wincore
I'm considering replacing 2 double hungs and currently have bids for $600 per window on the Sunrise Essentials and $480 on the Wincore 7700. The Wincore dealer put in windows in my neighbors house and they really liked them.
I was curious how you thought these two companies stood up to one another. Thanks!
Billy - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Billy, both Sunrise and Wincore enjoy good reputation as brands in the window industry. Sunrise is a definite step above the Wincore in terms of reputation though.
Having said that, $600 for the Sunrise Essentials window is quite a bit of money. The Essentials is their lower end window. I would much prefer you go with their Sunrise Classic window.
The Wincore 7700 series is the company's premium window over the 5400 series they also offer. The Wincore 7700 window at $480 per window is quite a good price. The fact that your neighbor has them, can vouch for them as well as the installer, seals the deal for me.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Essentials vs. Zen Nirvana
We are replacing 19 windows in our Maryland house. We got several quotes and can't decide which to go with.
The Zen Nirvana cost quote and the Essentials by Sunrise came in very close in price. The companies are highly rated on Angies list.
Please help us with our choice
Dulcie - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Dulcie, if we are comparing the windows, then the Soft-Lite Classic wins over the Essentials. The Essentials is the company's lower end vinyl window (it uses a less robust frame over their Standard frame). The Soft-Lite Classic is the mid range offering from Soft-Lite and is quite a good vinyl window.
I like the fact that the companies are both highly rated on Angies List, that is important.
The easy call here (in my opinion) is to go with the Zen Nirvana over the Essentials.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Windows vs Andersen
Tim, thank you for your continued assistance. I was finally able to get a quote on a Sunrise product. However, it is a Sunrise Essential, and the quote came in more expensive than the quotes I have received for the Alside Mezzo, Norandex X300, and Andersen 100 series. It is getting overwhelming trying to sort out which product is right for a sunroom that is not insulated or heated and cooled. Out of those options, Alside, Norandex, Andersen 100 series, and Sunrise Essential, which would you choose?
Sam - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Sam, I'm not shocked that the Sunrise Essentials quote came in higher than the other quotes. I would go back to the Sunrise dealer and tell him that you would like to get his absolutely lowest price on the standard Sunrise. This is a better frame and overall window than the Essentials, which is their entry level vinyl window option. The standard Sunrise is an excellent product and one that should offer some very nice low term value.
If I had to put the windows you currently have bids on in order from best to worst, this is what I would say... If you threw the standard Sunrise in there, it would be the obvious winner over these others.
Alside Mezzo
Sunrise Essentials
Andersen 100
Norandex X300 (Norandex window prices)
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Windows vs Vytex
Hi, which one would you pick and why, Sunrise Essential or Vytex Grandview window, if replacing 34 double hung windows assuming equal installation quality? I was quoted $16,700 by a Sunrise installer and $21000 by Vytech installer? Thank you, Bill. P.S. your website is fantastic!
Bill - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Bill, the Vytex Grandview is the better of the two windows, but not by a whole lot. The Sunrise Essentials is the company's entry level vinyl window and although good for an entry level window, I'm not sure that this would be my pick if I were planning on staying in my home long term. I would prefer you got pricing on the standard Sunrise window and see how that compared to the Grandview. My guess is it would be a bit more expensive that the Grandview.
I would go back to the Sunrise dealer and ask him to give me the Sunrise standard window for the price they quoted me out for the Essentials -- they won't do it, but I'll bet they start offering you a better deal than their initial gambit.
I would also go to the Vytex dealer and tell them that if they can match the Sunrise price then you're ready to sign a work order and get something on the books.
Both decent windows for sure -- now it's time to see where their floor price is.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Essentials vs Amerimax Craftsman Portrait
Good Day...I wonder if you could shed some light on two windows I am considering for our home in Colorado. Amerimax Craftsman Portrait vs Sunrise Essentials. They have both given me bids that are close and I like both companies and contractors. I would like to know which of the two are a better window overall.
Thank you for your help,
Sandi - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Sandi, that's a great question. Both the Amerimax Craftsman Portrait and Sunrise Essentials are both very solid middle of the road vinyl windows. The Sunrise Essentials is the entry-level sunrise window, however I think it is equal in quality and craftsmanship to the Ameriman Craftsman Portrait window.
Honestly, I'm not sure I can recommend one over the other, that is how close in quality they are to one another. Definitely take a look see at our page on Sunrise windows reviews. On the plus side, you have two excellent options and what would tip the scale for me is which of the companies is willing to come down off their initial bid.
Take a look at one of our articles on negotiating a window bid and maybe throw an email out to both of them and see what you get. It certainly can't hurt and I'm willing to bet that each of them drops their price at least a little. Assuming that the installation is equal in terms of quality and the overall reputations of the companies are equal, I would go with the company that gives you the best price.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Windows vs Pella 250
Sunrise essentials vs Pella 250 windows. Which is best?
Brian - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
While the Sunrise Essentials isn't the best vinyl window out there, its a decent window with a .30 U-factor and a .10 air infiltration rate. This is going to be better than Pella's entry level window, the 250 model. If it were my house, I would go with the Sunrise Essentials. If at all possible I would try and stretch into the Sunrise (sometimes called the standard or classic model). Pella has definitely stepped up their game with the 250 and 350, but I still don't think they can hold a candle to the top tier vinyl window manufacturers.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Windows vs Harvey
Hi I really like your site.
We have been shopping for vinyl replacement window for a while and vetting different contractors. We have a 100 year old home with old pulley style single pane windows & single pane storm windows on the outside. The old homeowner jumped the outside window casing with the vinyl siding they put on years ago and just rests against cheap aluminum molding which cases the window on the outside.
To be done properly – the siding needs to be cut back to expose original casing & would install J-channels & flashing and clad casing & sill in PVC. The window company they work with is Sunrise. Sunrise Essentials are the economy brand. Restorations are their better model however too expensive.
We are getting 10 double hung & 1 slider, double pane with Low E & Argon Gas, grids 6 over 0 on the upper sash only, ½ screens (no grids on slider) – plus the additional work which needs to be done noted above. In addition, we are getting 4 vinyl replacement a Sunrise basement hoppers. This company is highly rated on Angies list and has been around for 67 years and are known for good work. We have gotten them to bring their price down 2X so far.
The final cost for 15 window (10 double hung, 1 slider & 4 basement hoppers) with installation and extra work on outside is $8075. I believe this company will do the best work of all we interviewed (approx. 10 different contractors), however given that this is the economy model of Sunrise windows (Essentials) and they do not seem to have the greatest of reviews – do either of you have any input? The windows also do have a lifetime warranty on many aspects and the Labor has a 2 year warranty.
Other companies were going to use Simonton, Harvey, Ideal & 1 a local company to NJ only (Surburban Building Products).
I would really appreciate your thoughts on mostly the Sunrise Essentials brand. This place is a little more expensive than other however $8075/15 windows = $583/window with the xtra labor involved seems fair, however for this type of window is it fair and most importantly is it a good window????
Dan - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Dan, the Sunrise Essentials isn't a bad window, but it does use a slightly different, and less well built, extrusion from the Standard and upgraded Sunrise windows. With a low-e glass, the Essentials should deliver a .10 air infiltration and .30 u-value. Not bad numbers for an entry level vinyl, but if it were me I would do what I could to get into the Sunrise Classic or Standard frame, which will be less expensive than the Restorations. If they have access to the Essentials and the Restorations, then they should be able to order the standard Sunrise window.
In terms of the company, I'm a bit confused, the one pushing the Essentials you say has been in business for 67 years and are known for doing good work (I like this!), although later on you say they don't have great reviews (I don't like this).
I agree that the price is fair given all of the installation/repair work they need to do. This is one reason why I'd like to see you go with a little better window than the Essentials, because you want these windows to last so you don't have to pay for repair work in year 12.
Again, I'm not saying the Essentials is a bad window at all, it's probably on par with some of the better Simontons, better Ideals, and mid range Harvey Classic. I think if pushed and they couldn't get the Sunrise Classic, I would still probably go with the Essentials. If so, you may want to ask if you can get a metal sill reinforcement upgrade, something to ease your mind about the overall strength of the frame.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Windows Reviews :: Classic Series
The Standard or Classic Sunrise window is certainly an upgrade from the Sunrise Essentials model. It uses a nicer vinyl extrusion that is actually the same basic frame for all of the upgraded window series from Sunrise, including the Verde, Vanguard and Restorations. The only difference between the classic Sunrise and the upgraded models is the standard upgrades that come with the higher end series.
The standard Sunrise should be available for ala carte upgrades though, which provides consumers with some nice flexibility in terms of tailoring the window to their specific situation or needs. Overall, the standard Sunrise window is a high end mid range vinyl window that many industry experts would recommend for good long term value. I would give the Sunrise Standard Series Window a 4.4 out of 5 stars rating.
Dane - Site Editor
Sunrise Window Prices vs Okna 500 Series
Hi Dane, I came across your site while looking for reviews on Okna windows after getting a bid. Based on what I read, I got two additional bids from companies that use comparable windows and am hoping you can help me evaluate my options. I live in Northern Virginia (DC metro area). Our townhome was built in 2001 with builder-grade windows and we are replacing the 8 windows in the front of the house as they are in the worst condition. We expect to stay in this home for another 5-10 years.
Bid #1
Windows on Washington: $9317
8 Double-hung Okna InsulTec 500DX
Bid #2
Zen Windows DC: $7352
8 double-hung Softlite Classic Plus
Bid #3
American Windows: $7155
8 double-hung Sunrise
Thank you for any insight you can provide!
Juliet - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Juliet, if your timeline in the home is 5 to 10 years, I'd recommend going with either the Zen DC Soft-Lite Classic Plus of the Sunrise option. Both excellent windows and you save $2K -- which makes more sense with your timeline. I would go with the company that has the better online reviews and ratings. I think that would be the important "tie breaker" between these two very good options.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Windows Reviews
Hi Dane, I have one bathroom window that I want replaced and got a quote from a local Sunrise dealer. It's a 33 1/2 X 28 bathroom window. I got a quote for a Sunrise "Sunrise" series single hung for $904 and double hung for $1012. I didn't see the "Sunrise" model on your site, so I'm not sure if this is a low end or mid end window. What do you think of the price? It's Energy Star S2210A rated. This dealer does everything in house from installing to warranty work. Does this price seem high or about right with the inflation going on? Thanks.
Kurtis - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Kay, I would say this is about the going rate. Maybe a bit high. I would say to get a couple more quotes if you want to compare some pricing.
Here is my list of good and great windows in case you want to continue your search:
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Tilt-In Slider Windows
Hi, Dane. Thanks for the feedback. It's much appreciated!
We now have a 2nd installer quote for 24 Sunrise sliders.
$23,500 is the quote for Sunrise Tilt-In Slider Windows, which are the Standard or Classic version. The installer included an "Ultra U Plus 12" Glass Package. And they come with polyurethane foam insulation in the frames, and half-screens. I think if we get the tilt-in feature, both panes slide, but if not, I'm not sure if both panes slide, or just one pane.
We can add "SolarClean" self-cleaning glass for another $100 per window, so $2,400 for that feature, for a total of $25,900.
(If we eliminate the tilt-in feature [nice for cleaning], it saves $1,500.)
Dane, can I ask what you think of the pricing?
And do you think the Tilt-In feature is worth getting? I think the Sunrise windows are good quality, but does the tilt feature make the windows less "tight" or less reliable?
And in your experience, does the self-cleaning glass really work?
A 3rd installer says the framing appears "a bit thin" (based on his seeing photos of the sunroom).
He's pricing several Alside Window (are they any good?) options, but says they won't be able to install replacement windows; it would have to be "new construction". Does that mean they'd re-frame the windows?
A 4th installer, Window World, quoted:
$16,900 (4000 series [MI or AMI windows, I think]/low e/argon/screens for the 20 lower sliders. The bottom sliders would be tempered)
$4,200 for the top 4 fixed windows - 2 triangles and 2 trapezoids.
Total: $21,200. But they can't match the shape of the trapezoids, so we dropped that bid and the $34k+ Pella 250 bid.
A lot of moving parts here! I'd appreciate your thoughts on the Sunrise and Alside options.
P.S. The photos are of our sunroom with the leaky single-pane storm sliders.
John - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
John, the Sunrise price seems a bit high, but not excessive. The tilt in feature shouldn't affect the energy efficiency because you really aren't cleaning windows more than, what, say twice a year? I think it's worth it -- it saves you money over time if you clean your own windows instead of paying a service once a year. I don't know enough about their self cleaning glass to make that call -- sorry about that.
Alside windows are not in the same category as Sunrise. They are more of a mid range option for the most part in my opinion. I would stick with the Sunrise if you are in your home long term.
I would also skip the Window World quote. AMI and MI windows are even further down the rung than the Alside in my estimation.
The Sunrise is not a cheap bid, but it's not excessive, and you are getting a very good window that will last you for decades. That's my position.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Windows vs Zen
By the wya, I'm loving your Sunrise windows reviews page, but I have to say I am totally confused on some of this.
1. The quoted price in my email for Anlin - did they seem to be an OK price or were they too high. This is for the Anlin Catalina and the patio door Malibu patio door
2. Yes I can see about getting quotes on the other two brands that you mentioned. I think one of the contractors also does Sunrise. I want single hung and apparently in the Restorations model they only do double hung. Possibly the Classic has single hung. I forgot I do have a quote for double hung Restoration and that was $ 4,000 plus. Doesn't that seem high?
The items I have are:
patio door 72 x 80
3 windows 72 x 60 0r separately or 36 x 60 - there is the frame separation
transom above the patio door - 072.00 x 014.75
Are Anlin and the Zen and Sunrise a middle quality because that is what I need. Not a high end. It looks like I need a quote on Sierra Classic and Zen Nirvana and Zen Lotus
Also I am having an issue with Egress. Boulder County, even if doing replacement windows, wants work permits and to meet Egress. My condo is 32 years old and of course that is a big deal. So far Sunrise and Anlin do not meet Egress. That is why I was considering the sliders because they open wider. Do you have any insight on this? Do I just need to check with each company if they meet that standard?
I can attempt to attach the quotes themselves and send them I am just not technology oriented
Ellen - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
Ellen, if you want to keep in that mid range, go with the Zen Classic, it is a vey good performing window at a reasonable cost. It sounds like the Zen windows meet egress. I would certainly check with each company to make sure the windows meet the egress requirements of the county. $14,000 seems to high to me, so I would concentrate on that Zen bid.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Windows vs Pella
Hello! This website has been so helpful in learning more about windows! It's so hard to find an unbiased opinion, so I'm hoping you can help me decide!
I have a kitchen with an eating area that is similar to a sunroom. Currently, it has 8 side by side 32"x72" double hung windows that need replacement. I am replacing them with 8 picture windows because I never open the windows and it looks out on my pretty garden, so the new picture windows won't obstruct my view. I'm also concerned about the window tints that seem to come standard on the windows and wondering how to handle that. I'm looking for a quality window at a fair price.
These are the bids I received for 8 picture window replacements:
Sunrise Classic, Omega 12 - $7600 + tax
Simonton Reflections 5500 - $7000
Pella 250 Lowes Installer - $6800
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! Also, thanks for the Sunrise windows reviews and prices, very helpful.
Janice - Homeowner - from 2021
[Site Editor's Answer]
Janice, the prices are about what I would expect. The Sunrise is the best window, the Reflections 5500 is the second best, followed by the Pella 250. Because the last two are virtually the same, I would certainly go with the 5500 over the 250 option. I'm also often wary of the installers from Lowes or HD, they are a mixed bag.
This is how I would make my decision on whether to spend the additional, what, $1200 on the Sunrise Classic option -- if I were staying in the home 10 years plus, then I would spend the additional money and go with the Sunrise. If my timeline in the home was less than 10 years, I would go with the Simonton Reflections 5500 for the $7K. That's my basic rule of thumb for ROI.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2021
Sunrise Omega 12 Window Glass Tint
Hi Dane, found your email off of the replacement window reviews site and would love your input. We recently had our kitchen windows installed. We went with the Sunrise Omega 12. We love how it turned out however disappointed with the dark tint. We were not informed of how tinted the windows would be. Our dealer stated that the tint is an added protection and standard with the upgrade. Had I known this, we wouldn’t have went with this option. At this point, do you think this is something we can go back and change? Even when we were out in the showroom, there was no indication that the windows would have any tint let alone a very dark one.
With it being at the front of the house, it is quite noticeable compared to my other windows. Most importantly, our kitchen is now darker and we lost light pouring in.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Lisa - Homeowner - from 2021
[Site Editor's Answer]
Lisa, glass tint and energy efficiency is definitely a trade off and some homeowners have a real problem with the darker tint, while others don't even register it. As to your courses of action, I would absolutely contact your Sunrise rep and ask him or her if there are any options available to you. I would find out how expensive it would be to swap out the glass (if possible) on the front windows that really bug you. Maybe there is a happy medium in there. I'm not sure I have any additional remedies, but if more come to mind, I will certainly reach out to you.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Sunrise Windows In Alabama
Hi Tim. My husband is a little concerned about going from wood to vinyl but that just seems to be the growing trend. Are wood windows worth the cost and approximately how much more do those cost in general?
In your opinion is it better to go with high quality vinyl ? Our budget is $40k for 39 windows.
Thanks!
Meggan - Homeowner - from 2020
[Website Editor Reply]
Meggan, I totally get that. The trend is interestingly much more practical than other trends in the home improvement business. I will include an article comparing the two. Before I post that, let me say this. In the South especially I would go with a high quality vinyl with an interior wood laminate (assuming you want to see a wood grain).
Sunrise makes a nice looking wood laminate that we put in a friend's home in Baton Rouge and eight years later she loves her windows. They are super energy efficient and will hold up so much longer than wood and offer such better energy efficiency.
wood windows vs vinyl
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise vs Zen
Hi Dane, I am buying a brick home in Statesville NC 28677 that was built in 1922. There are 2 dealers not far from my area and they sell Zen windows and Sunrise windows. One is Zen Windows Greensboro ( they also have an office in Charlotte) and the other is G & S Contractors in Mooresville. I have read numerous reviews on your website and have now thoroughly confused myself. The house still has the original double hung windows with weights and I would like a mid-range vinyl.
Do you have any recommendations that you can share with me? This is only one of many projects that will happen with the house so while I don't want to sacrifice quality I do want to get a reasonable price. I'm also a retired flight attendant on a fixed income and would like to know what questions to ask a sales representative.
Thank you so much for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
Susan - Homeowner - from 2020
[Website Editor Reply]
Hi Susan, so both Zen and Sunrise are good options. The Zen Nirvana, their mid range offering, is actually the Soft-Lite Classic, a good vinyl window. I would probably give the nod to the Sunrise Standard model, but not by any appreciable amount. You might also want to check for an Okna or a Polaris dealer in your area as more comparison price points to consider.
If I were making the decision between the Zen Nirvana and the Sunrise Classic, I would probably pivot from a product comparison (very similar in quality and craftsmanship) to the company doing the install. I would check online reviews, reputation, labor warranty, and how long they've both been in business to see if I can't pinpoint which company stands out over the other.
Assuming you are comfortable with the price quote, then I'd pull the trigger. Good luck with the project!
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Classic Series vs Okna 500
Hi Dane and Tim, my wife and I are in the market to purchase new windows (16 total) for our home. There are more windows in the house we are not replacing because they were replaced (they are all Pella windows, but we are unsure which model) within the last two years by the previous owner. We live in the Washington DC area and we expected prices to be higher than average, but would still like quality windows.
We contacted several companies in the area and received the following quotes. We live in a house built in 1962 and the second cost includes possible lead removal, but the windows have been replaced at least once and we are unsure if the lead has already been removed.
1. Okna 500 $12,855.40 / $13,767.40
2. Zen Lotus (Soft Lite) $10,872 / $11,875.95
3. Sunrise Standard $10,212.38 / $10,550.78
4. ProVia Endure $9,689.19 / $10,027.64
I have attached a spreadsheet which further breaks down costs per window if that is helpful. The Okna quote was broken down further than the others, which is why installation and features is separated. However, all of the features and installation is comparable across all windows. Are the windows we are looking at good options?
We would appreciate any feedback you can provide on quality versus value for our quotes. Windows are an important investment and we want to make sure we are getting the most bang for our buck. Thank you for your help and your blog; it's been very helpful.
Chris - Homeowner - from 2020
[Website Editor Reply]
Chris, first of all, all excellent brands and models. The Okna 500 and the ProVia Endure are probably the two best windows, followed by the Sunrise and Soft-Lite Pro. Have you tried the Sunrise windows reviews and ratings page yet?
Based on the prices and long-term value, I'd say the ProVia bid is the best, followed by the Sunrise Standard. If this were my forever home, I might consider the Okna quote, but if the ProVia dealer is a quality outfit with good reviews, I might stick with this one.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Windows vs Andersen
Hi Tim, I have 5 quotes for 13 replacement windows 12 double hung and 1 awning for the kitchen in the greater Milwaukee area.
Quote #1 Provia Endure triple pane local contractor 11,856.00. The rest are double pane.
Quote#2 Sunrise 8,810.00 local contractor as well, neither with financing options.
Quote#3 Feldco Sophia 9,000.00 after discounts 8.99% for 8 years.
The final quotes are from Pella with friends/ family discounts on top of two options of sale financing due to covid19.
Financing is as follows 5% off 5 months no payment 5 years 0% interest or 5% off 2.99% for 12 years. Pella 250 series just under 11,000 or because they don't do faux wood laminate on their vinyl windows we also got a quote for their Lifestyle aluminium clad wood window 22,000. Wood look is important to us so the 250 is out probably for that reason alone.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts love the info you and Dane provide. If we were to say go with real wood are you confident that Pella has fixed the rot issue they had with the Proline windows which Lifestyle Series has replaced.
Thank you.
Brandon - Homeowner - from 2020
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Brandon, the Sunrise window bid is the best deal by far. The ProVia Endure is the best window, but that's an expensive bid. Feldco isn't worth the price, not when you have the Sunrise bid. The Pella 250 can't hold a candle to the Sunrise window. If this were my project, I would figure out a way to make the Sunrise window bid work.
If I were going with real wood (which I think is a tough decision to justify given the increased cost, maintenance, and reduction in energy efficiency), I would go with Marvin Ultimate, Andersen 400, or the Jeld Wen aurlast wood clad windows.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Classic Bow Window
Tim--Still reading your reviews for Sunrise windows and so thankful I found your website. Learning a lot. We got a quote from a Sunrise Classic dealer to replace our 112"x54" bow window which is original to the house (49 yrs old). I'm liking the aesthetics of a 3-lite slider with 1/3,1/3,/1/3 configuration. Cost quoted was $1750 total and this dealer has a good install rep in the area. The only other Sunrise dealer near me sells only the Restorations line and he quoted $2950.
I called the factory and they told me both Classic and Restoration series are structurally the same, just more "bells and whistles" for the Restorations but the factory also told me that for upstate NY weather the Classic should serve us fine. Got other window quotes which range from $1700 for Simonton up to $4500 for high-pressure salesperson. Just looking to get your opinion on $1750 price on my size replacement flat-front slider.
Deb - Homeowner - from 2020
[Website Editor Reply]
Deb, $1750 to replace a bow window with a three lite slider is a great price. I agree that the Sunrise “Classic” is more than adequate. The Restorations is an awesome window built on the good bones of the Sunrise window design. I think you should go with the well priced $1750 especially since the person has a good reputation in the area. No question...
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Windows vs Okna
Hi Dane and Tim, thank you for your Sunrise Windows Reviews page - we recently bought a new house in the Atlanta area that needs replacement windows and doors. We plan to be in this house at least 25 years, so are willing to spend for a premium product/install if it makes sense.
We have 47 windows: 32 double hungs, 5 picture, 6 transoms, 1 twin casement, and then a round top picture window with 2 sidelites in the foyer. We're also replacing 5 doors (2 of which are french double doors). The transoms are proving to be a pain. They are all in the family room and there is 1 over a double door, 1 over a single door, 2 over picture windows, 1 over a single double hung, and 1 over a 3-wide double hung. This last one is an issue for some manufacturers as they don't make transoms that long.
Company 1: Infinity by Marvin Windows and ProVia Steel doors: $102,500 before a 25% "discount" (which looks like it just brings their inflated prices down closer to fair market value) brought it down to $76,920. The doors were just over $18K of the original $102K. This quote did include a color on the windows. They would use a Hardie product to replace the brickmould rather than PVC.
Company 2: The dealer I found through Simonton's website actually gave us 2 quotes: Great Lakes ComfortSmart Series (including a color on the windows): $25,400 for windows and VinylMax Franklin (white): $22,700 for windows. Both quotes included ThermaTru fiberglass doors for $9,100.
Company 3: This was the local Sunrise Restorations dealer. Sunrise doesn't make a transom wide enough to go over the three wide double hung, and after mentioning our concerns with the rot on the brickmould, we decided with the salesman to look at a full frame replacement that comes with the brickmould in a single unit from the factory and completely eliminate the transoms and replace with taller windows and doors. Unfortunately, this means that we need to order custom height doors. The quote is $44,400 for the windows (which there are now fewer of without the transoms) and $14,800 for ProVia doors. The windows included one of Sunrise's factory option colors, but if we went back to white it should knock a bit over $3K off the quote. ProVia Doors Reviews
Company 4: This was the Okna dealer. The salesman quoted the 600 since we said we wanted SDLs (I guess these aren't an option on the 500). He said the only difference between the 600 and 800 is that the 800 has a few extra bells and whistles and a slightly better Air Infiltration rating, which is already excellent on the 600. So, that quote was 25,200 for white windows (31,600 for custom color) and 13,800 for ProVia doors, including a discount for paying cash.
Robert - Homeowner - from 2020
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Robert, the Okna quote is the one that stood out to me. Great price for the custom color as well.
I'm not from the South, but I have heard stories of warping on the brickmould from humidity over time. For this question, I would rely on opinions from contractors and window installers who work in the area. There's just no substitute for experience and unfortunately I don't have that experience.
That's a tough question between the full frame replacement and the replacement windows. It's sort of the age old question and difficult to answer. I think if you're staying in your house long term, you may want to consider the Sunrise.
On the vinyl question, both Sunrise and Okna use quality vinyl, no difference. That whole sniping thing is just salespeople trying to get the edge. Both windows are high quality.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
[Robert's Reply]
Dane - thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll try the forum you recommended, as I'm still going back and forth on how to deal with the brickmould. The frustrating part is that different "experts" we've talked to in Atlanta have different opinions, and some of them very strong opinions that are the complete opposite of other "experts."
We are leaning towards Sunrise though. Our house isn't that old (built mid-90s), but the prior owners were pretty bad about maintenance. It would just make me feel better knowing that all problems are identified and fixed for a house we plan to be in long term.
Robert - Homeowner - from 2020
Sunrise Windows In San Antonio
Hi Kellen, we are looking to do some window replacements in our home in San Antonio, TX. Most of our windows face north/south and don’t get a lot of direct sun. We have 16 windows and want to keep it simple with single pane windows.
What brands would you recommend that deliver value but don’t break the bank? My other concern is finding contractors that have experience installing any specific brands that you recommend.
Thanks.
Jason - Homeowner - from 2020
[Website Editor Reply]
Jason, there may be a Sunrise dealer in your area, I would first check their website to see. Don Young is a strong company in Texas, their vinyl windows are solid, but their aluminum windows are very good.
Zen Windows sells a Soft-Lite and their Nirvana and Lotus series are quite good. Simonton makes a couple of good window series, including the Reflections 5500 series.
This is where I would start. I'd have the window dealer install the windows as they work with the same brands day in and day out.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Windows Reviews : Platinum Series
Dane or Tim, I’m not sure who to send this questions to, so I’ll address it to both of you, and hopefully one of you can help. You have the best website on this subject, and I appreciate all the great advice.
We are trying to replace our old 1992 wood windows with windows that are better quality and maintenance free. We have multiple bids and are genuinely confused. Here is the raw data, followed by my questions.
We have 26 windows in our two-story house in Brighton Michigan. Most are double-hung, with one of the windows a set of three ( ¼ ½ ¼ ). We are seniors and this is a big expenditure for us. We plan to live in our house as long as possible. We can afford $15,000 and possibly up to $19,000 (with a stretch).
Our bids so far . . .
Renewal by Anderson, composite $43,000 (we dismissed this bid)
Pella by Lowes, Vinyl 350 series $15,320
Wallside vinyl $14,239 (lowest price after negotiating)
Sunrise Platinum, triple pane composite $20,200 (I’ve negotiated this down from $35,000 – must be a lot of fluff in their pricing)
Sunrise Restoration $19,738 (he says this is his lowest price)
Soft-Lite Elements, $21,932
Here are my questions.
1. Your reviews of Sunrise Restorations are very good, and they are very nice windows. Is $19,738 a good price for our 26 windows? (Note, there is only one Sunrise Restorations authorized dealer within 75 miles of our home, so it is hard to get a second bid on Sunrise Restorations, and the dealer says this is his lowest price.)
2. The low-to-moderate vinyl windows (Pella 350 and Wallside) range around $15,000, and the better quality Sunrise Restorations and Soft-Lite Elements are around $20,000. Is it worth the extra $5,000 to buy the higher quality windows? I know this is not easy to answer, but any comments are appreciated, as it is a hard decision to make. Wallside Windows Reviews
3. Small question: we would like a Garden window in our kitchen, but some of the installers say it is not a good idea, because of the exposure to the elements and possible leaking. Any comments?
We appreciate any advice you can provide.
Carl - Homeowner - from 2019
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Carl, good on you for getting all of those great bids. You really have some great windows in there! Also, it sounds like you have worked hard to get the best pricing from each so that's awesome.
The big question for me is whether to go with the Wallside for $14K, the Pella 350 for $15K or the Sunrise option(s) for $20K? Essentially -- are top tier windows worth $5K more than mid range vinyl windows? I tend to think they are, but it has to be a function of the remaining time in the home. If this is my forever home, then absolutely yes. If this is my home for the next five to seven years, then no. It gets tricky if the answer is somewhere in between.
The price on the Restoration is decent. Not great, but decent. If the dealer has a good reputation for quality installation, then it makes sense that they charge this amount. I'd rather pay an extra $1500 or $2K for a window to be properly installed.
The Restoration frames are thin and look nice, so if aesthetics of windows are important to you, then yes go this route. If an average looking vinyl window in your home is perfectly fine, then don't pay the extra.
I tend to agree with the installers on the third point.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Pure Core Platinum Bid
Dane, I have a quote on the Sunrise Platinum AR-90 window, as well as one on the Great Lakes Comfort Series. The prices are the same, virtually, but was wondering which one you thought was the better deal. Thanks.
Gianni - Homeowner - from 2019
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Gianni, the Great Lakes Comfort Smart is a solid mid range option, the Sunrise Standard is the better window in my opinion. I'd suggest taking a look at our Sunrise windows reviews and pricing pages - separate but both worth a look I think.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Vinyl Windows or Marvin
I am replacing 19 sliders and 1 sliding patio door here in Michigan. I'm considering either a Sunrise vinyl window or a Marvin fiberglass window. I was curious how you thought these two materials stood up to one another.
Rajen - Homeowner - from 2019
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Rajen, I don't think it matters whether you get vinyl or fiberglass windows, but it does matter whether you buy a quality window or not. Both the Sunrise vinyl window and the Marvin fiberglass window are excellent. I'd probably prefer you go with the Sunrise or the Marvin, but you can't go wrong with either.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Classic vs Alside Preservation
I received quotes from two different installers after meeting them at our local Spring Home Expo. Both of these firms are local and have been in business for over 20 years. The quotes are different in price I am trying to understand if I am making any quality trade-offs between Sunrise and Preservation. The quotes include materials, permits, disposal and labor.
Both Include: 18 Casements, 1 Awning
Sunrise:
7/8 Insulated, Double Pane Glass
Argon Gas Filled
Ultra U+8 Coating, Low - E
Foam Filled Frames
Full Fiberglass Screens
Total Price - $12,940
Preservation:
9071/9072 - Preservation Series
EnergyMax 7, Double Pane, Low - E
Argon Gas Filled
Total Price - $16,842.29
I would appreciate guidance on these quotes.
Rod - Homeowner - from 2019
[Site Editor's Answer]
Rod, the Sunrise Classic is the right call here, especially if the installer has a good reputation. I'd pick the Sunrise Classic/Standard over the Alside Preservation window even if the prices were the same. Sunrise has a very good reputation for making a quality vinyl window and their standard bearer window is very solid. You have a good glass package and the foam filled frames are great. The Sunrise all the way.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Standard Window vs Zen Lotus
Hi Dane, I wanted to get your feedback on some updated bids for our project and see what you think. We have moisture rot in a number of window sills and broken seals on some of our existing windows, so the project has grown to replace 63 windows of various sizes.
The 63 includes large picture windows, double hung, and some eyebrow, half dome and rectangular transoms.
I took your suggestion and found local sellers for Okna, Zen and Sunrise. All have very favorable online ratings and do their own installations. I would be comfortable with any of these companies.
First company quoted us $59,250 for the Okna Insultec double pane.
Second, Zen Windows gave us a quote for the Lotus (Soft Lite Pro) double pane for $61,575
Third company came in at $46,900 for the Sunrise Standard window.
Two other thoughts...the Okna dealer said they cap the exterior with aluminum when the finish the install, while the Sunrise company suggested that is just a way for them to cover up bad installation damage.
Second, our current windows are wood and painted custom colors in the interior of our home. If we go with any of these vinyl windows, we are forced to change our color scheme and add the cost to repaint our interior trim. Would there be value for us to consider a high quality wood window like an Andersen 400 that we could paint to match our current interior?
Thank you so much Dane for your help!
David - Homeowner - from 2018
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David, the Soft-Lite Pro and Sunrise Standard window are on par with one another. I would rank the Okna Insul-tec above these two by a bit, not much though. Seems to me the best deal of the three is the Sunrise quote.
Properly done, aluminum capping is a great way to protect the integrity of the exterior wood if you are concerned about wood rot. I've never heard that a company would do it in order to cover up installation damage. That indicates a pretty shady company and I would think that the companies installing these quality brands wouldn't resort to this. I would let the online reviews of the company be my guide here. Basically, I've never heard of a quality company using capping to hide their install mistakes -- I would think eventually this would come to light and burn them.
Should we consider a high quality wood window to match our current interior? I would be very hesitant about spend $75K or more on good wood windows that you will have to replace in 25 years. Have you ever considered the interior wood laminate options with the Sunrise or the Okna Insultec? They do a nice job of imitating the look of wood without the cost, maintenance, or loss of efficiency.
Both companies offer quite a few species options and tints that may match your interior color scheme. The laminates do add to the cost of the vinyl window, but it would be a lot less expensive than the alternatives.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Standard vs Polaris UltraWeld
I have 5 double hungs and a twin casement that need to be replaced. I've received two bids, once from Polaris on the Ultraweld and one from Sunrise on I guess their standard window. The bids are basically the same; the Polaris one is $3065 while the Sunrise is $3046. The Ultraweld comes with foam fills but not on the Sunrise.
They both seem like good windows. Which one would you go with?
Gene - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Gene, on the face of it, it sounds like a wash, but the Polaris Ultraweld is probably the better window over the Sunrise standard. Honestly, I'd go with the company that has the better track record, and better reviews. I think ultimately that will matter more than the windows themselves.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Windows Reviews
Hi Tim, I have been on your website and learned a lot from your feedback to the posted questions. I wondered if you could give me your opinion on a price quote I have received for a Sunrise standard window full frame replacement. The existing wood trim on both existing window openings is water damaged and rotted and so I have decided to go with the full frame replacement with exterior vinyl brick moulding and interior wood trim.
There are two windows per opening making it four windows in total. The new windows are Sunrise standard horizontal sliders. The quoted price is $3290, which works out to approximately $820 per window. The total size of 2 of the windows is approx. 60” x 48” and the other 2 48” x 48”. Does this price sound reasonable to you?
Thank you for any help you can give me on this.
Paul - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Paul, that does sound pretty reasonable for the Sunrise and replacing the interior and exterior trim. That's not to say it's his best price though. I'd get a couple more bids just to see how they come in. I wouldn't imagine you'd get it for anything less than $2700, but that's a $500 savings. Up to you of course, but it might be worth a couple more opinions/bids.
The Sunrise window is a solid unit so you have a good bid to work off.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Classic / Standard Window Costs
If I have a bid on the Simonton Reflections 5500 for $470 per window, but am also considering the Sunrise Classic window, what would be the upgrade price that makes sense?
Thanks.
Dan - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Dan, first off that's a fantastic price per window for the Simonton 5500 (Check out all of our Simonton windows costs here). I really like this window at this price. The Sunrise is the better window for sure. I think if I could get the Sunrise Classic for $550 per window I would definitely consider either option.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise 2100 Window vs. Statewide Energy Solutions
I previously had a quote for the Sunrise Restorations and loved the window. However, it was out of my price range. More recently, I've had bids on the normal Sunrise, as well as a window made here locally called the Texas Energy Maxx from Statewide Energy Solutions. This window seems well made, is a single hung and has a U-factor of .29. I have 11 single hung windows, along with a three lite slider with screens. The price tag is $6770.
The Sunrise quote from American Replacement Window uses a 2100 glass option, no grilles, and is on 11 double hungs and a two lite slider with screens. Pretty much the same bid but using double hungs instead of single hungs. The price tag here is $6998.
David - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
David, the normal Sunrise is a good vinyl window, not as good as the Restorations, but good nonetheless. The nice thing about the Sunrise Window is you can upgrade anything you need to on an ala carte basis.
I don't know anything about the Texas Energy Maxx series or Statewide Energy Solutions. They look like they get generally positive reviews, but I don't think the price difference justifies going with an unknown window manufacturer over one that has a long history and tons and tons of online reviews.
My vote would have to be for the Sunrise window option.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
[David's Reply]
I have been using your website for research for at least 10 months and you and I are in agreement. Guess you guys are enlightening because those are the things I am concerned with and questioned the contractors about.
Mike with American demonstrated to me with his demo with the Sunrise window that I would be getting the items you mentioned: a reinforced meeting rail, vertical sash, foam filled chambers, tilt sash mechanism, and a high transparency screen.Going to pin him down on these and installation expertise before signing.
You guys are awesome!!! Love the Sunrise as long as I get what is promised and it is installed right.
One thing puzzles me, the co-owner of Statewide repeatedly said they had nothing to do with Statewide Remodeling in Dallas but I noticed in a not-so-good review that the other co-owners first name was Bruce, same as the Statewide Remodeling co-owner. Moot point now I guess but strange coincidence at best. Just FYI!
Thanks again.
David - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
David, curious about the Statewide Remodeling. The logo looks similar on the two websites, but beyond that...if you really want to find out, see if you can find the last name of Bruce from one site, then call up the other company and ask for him specifically. That would be interesting if they were the same person.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Omega 12 vs. ProVia Aspect
Good Morning, we are needing to replace all of our windows in our home. I am wondering what your recommendations are between the Sunrise Glass # Omega 12 or the ProVia Aspect? I appreciate any assistance you can give us...… Thank You Teresa
Teresa - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Teresa, both of these windows are quite nice. Personally, I would opt for the Sunrise with the Omega glass. However, I would take a close look at the company who was doing the work. If I liked the company who sold the ProVia aspect more than the Sunrise dealer, this could be the deciding factor.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Price Estimate
Hi. I would like your advice on pricing. N2100a, ultra u plus glass, dual pane IGU, argon gas, max edge spacer. Pocket replacement. No low e coating, no noise reduction, no solar clean. Yes to standard screen. NFRC slider: U .29, SHGC .28, VT .53, CR .59, AI .11, 85% UV blocked. Not energy star.
Ballpark, what should this run installed in the Chicago area? I read many of your Sunrise Windows reviews, but still unclear. 3 sliders (bedrooms) and bay window (casements on the sides. If cost prohibitive, we’ll skip the bay and just do a picture and 2 sliders.
Jill - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Jill, my best guess would be $450 to $550 installed, really depends on the size of the windows. Also, get a price estimate on a bay window is impossible without know all the specs and installation requirements.
Collect a few bids and these will tell you the fair market price for the project. Once you get them, send them over to me and I'm happy to give you my opinion on the best value on the bids you have.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise vs Feldco Sophia Series
We have a 1920s house outside of Chicago and we have a bid to replace 24 windows and an entry door. Feldco gave us an estimate that came to $17,000 on their Sophia window series. I wasn't sure if this was a good window or not.
We then had a rep from Sunrise comes out and bid the project on their Standard series windows. His estimate was $14.5K. I wondered how you thought these two bids compare.
Brian - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Brian, I don't hear much about Feldco windows, but I know they have a strong presence in Chicagoland. The Sophia series is pretty good so I wouldn't necessarily rule it out.
However, Sunrise has the better national reputation and is well regarded by many contractors and window installers in the know. The standard Sunrise is quite a nice unit and you can add any upgrades a la carte if your needs require them. The Sunrise quote is also lower, so in my book this is a pretty easy answer. They offer a good warranty and are known for a quality product that stands the test of time.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise vs Vista Panorama
Hello Dane, I've got a lot of useful info from your Website. However, I can't find the exact info I needed so asking this question; sorry if I missed something.
We are going to replace two twin casement windows in a 30 years old house in Central VA. Each window is approximately 58 inch high and each single window is approximately 26.5 inches wide so the pair is approximately 56.5 inches wide including central spacer.
As replacements, we would like to get two white vinyl double-pane double casement windows with screens and without any grilles. One of the windows is for 2nd floor bathroom and should have tempered glass. We don't need high-end Low E coating since it blocks light so asked for "regular" low E.
I got several quotes from local and nearby (Richmond VA) installers:
Vista windows (just Vista, the salesman said but looking at the literature I believe it's Panorama), $1765 total. The installer uses theirs own labor and has glowing reviews;
Sunrise windows ( again salesman said "just Sunrise" but he is sure it's neither Essential nor Vanguard or Restoration), $3631 total. The installer, a small business, uses his own labor and has glowing reviews;
Preservation windows, triple pane, $4140. Salesman said they don't have double pane and was overall sort of pushy. Don't know if they contract labor or not;
ProVia windows, windows themselves $1797 plus installation $1760-$2640 ( they didn't visit us). Installer said they work with ProVia for a long time, are properly trained and have good reviews. So the total for ProVia will be $3557-$4437.
I like Sunrise windows more than others since they has a narrow frame and I'll be losing less glass space than with other replacements. On the other hand, Vista is almost 2 times less expensive. True, it's frame is a bit wider than the Sunrise but it's only like a third of inch.
Could it be that Vista windows are so much inferior that it's reflected in the cost? Or the installer hides something?
We really appreciate your Sunrise windows reviews as this industry is confusing.
Andrei - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
Hi Andrei. Vista has only one line of vinyl window, the Panorama. Not a bad bid -- their window is solidly middle-of-the-road.
The Sunrise window is sometimes referred to as the standard or classic model and is quite good. Better than the Vista Panorama, but I have a hard time saying its worth 2x.
The Preservations bid and the ProVia bids are too expensive for the quality of window they are offering.
My advise would be to go back to the Sunrise dealer and tell them that you like their window the best, but it's out of your price range -- especially considering you have a bid from Vista for about half of what he is offering. If he could get the bid to more like $2400, you would be willing to sign the work order today. Then give him a few days and see if he sweetens the deal for you.
I would put my over under at around $2700. If Sunrise can't get the price under that, then I would go with the Vista, which is not as good as the Sunrise, but with solid installation is still a very decent vinyl window.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise vs Soft-Lite Casement Windows
Hi there, I'm in the market for replacement windows and came across your website. It's been really helpful. I'm trying to decide between Sunset and Soft lite casement windows. It's somewhat challenging to get the specs to compare the two. If you could share the window cost sheet that would be great.
Tom - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Here Tom, I hope this helps. Both Sunrise and Soft-Lite make good casements. Both companies also make several lines or series of windows so I would need a bit more info to tell you which is the better deal.
If its the standard Sunrise window and say the Soft-Lite Pro or Imperial LS, I would say you are comparing apples-to-apples. In that case, I would shift your focus from window to installer/company as the way to make your decision.
Check their online reviews and reputation, find out about labor warranty, etc. Choose the best company who you feel are going to address any issues that might arise during the project.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
[Tom's Reply]
It is between the Soft Lite Imperial LS casement and the standard Sunrise casement. I know it depends on existing conditions, but what is the general rule for going with a full replacement option vs insert option? I've got pricing for both. Would be nice not to have to spend the money but hard to know if I should or not. Any guidance would be helpful. Home was constructed in mid 1990's.
Tom - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Tom, the full replacement vs. inserts question is a tough one. You lose some viewing area with the inserts, but its cheaper. It may not be quite as watertight (totally depends on how well the flashing, sills, walls, etc. are holding). Full replacements are more expensive, but are a tighter fit and often more watertight (again with the same caveats).
I have stucco on my house, so to do full replacements means taking out six to eight inches of stucco around each window, replacing the windows, patching the stucco and then color matching. This last step is so time intensive that it almost makes sense just to repaint the stucco on the whole house. Therefore for me, I will replace all my windows and paint the stucco (thankfully they now make this breathable paint) in one fell swoop when the time comes.
I think this is where tons of bids comes in because you can basically solicit lots of free and professional opinions. I'm sort of a believer that you get as many bids as you need until you know the answer for your project without question. I would ask each installer what they would do if it were their house (I find you get the most honest answer with this question).
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
[Tom's Reply]
Thanks, Dane. You've been very helpful. I think we're going to go with Sunrise and new full replacement. Pricing for inserts was only $800 less (on a $21K job). I have a lot of dual casement windows and they said it's not much savings to do inserts. So, worth the $ in my opinion.
Good luck with the stucco!
Tom - Homeowner - from 2017
Sunrise Windows Reviews
We just got an estimate on 16 Sunrise Standard series. 14 double-hung of various sizes and two half round architectural windows. Installation price after a 25% discount was $19,000. See attached picture of the estimate detail.
We feel like this is a very high price, but we are in despair ate need of windows. Any help would be great.
Ryan - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Ryan, I took a look at the estimate and I find it very high as well. I don't see how they are charging over $1000 for a Sunrise window on relatively standard sized double hung. I have no idea what kind of installation requirements you have, but I would certainly take a couple more weeks and get a few more bids.
I'm not sure where you're located, but take a look at our recommended window list and see if any of the brands are available through companies in your area.
How to negotiate with a window salesman
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Windows vs Simonton
I got a quote for 3 double-hungs, 5 sliders, and 1 glass patio door. The quote from Sunrise was around $9000 and the quote from Simonton 6500 was around $10,700. What are the pros and cons between the windows because the both have a double lifetime fully transferable warranty. Both windows seem equally good and durable.
Carl - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
I love getting questions like yours because they make my job soooo easy. The Sunrise windows are far and away the better window over the Simonton Vantage Pointe. And $1700 cheaper....how great is that? Go with the Sunrise and if ask the dealer to go over any potential upgrades such as foam fills, sill reinforcements, or simply an upgraded glass package. For the price of the Simontons, you could get some awesome upgrades and have a really great vinyl window.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise, Marvin And Jeld Wen Comparisons
I wrote a couple of weeks ago. We are replacing 15-20 Jeld-Wen casements installed 17 years ago. Bottom stiles started disintegrating in 2007. Wenco replaced several at that time under warranty but Jeld-Wen not willing to stand behind warranty after they merged. We have been exploring your website (especially the sunrise windows reviews and cost pages) and have found it very informative and quite helpful.
Yesterday we requested proposals from local Marvin and Sunrise reps and are considering a request for Jeld-Wen AuraLast Wood despite our past experience with them. I have had a satisfactory experience with a local contractor that handles them and suspect they would be quite competitive price-wise. Have you had enough exposure to AuraLast Wood to feel comfortable giving me your opinion of their value in comparison with Marvin and Sunrise? Would appreciate hearing your thoughts.
Joyce - Homeowner - from 2017
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Joyce, I would certainly put Marvin and Sunrise above Jeld Wen in terms of quality and craftsmanship. (More on Jeld-Wen window prices.) Sunrise would be my pick, they make an excellent vinyl window. Marvin makes good fiberglass windows that are going to be more expensive.
I have heard good things about the AuraLast wood, but I don't think it's been around long enough to say for sure whether it will last for 20 to 30 years. It's still wood, which is an organic material that doesn't offer the same energy efficiency or the long term durability of a quality vinyl. But it does look quite nice :)
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Classic Windows vs Simonton 5500 Series
I am replacing 13 windows and 2 sliding glass doors. I gotten a bunch of quotes and here are my final two. The Sunrise is supposed to be the better brand right? Is the Standard Sunrise window worth $2,000 more than the Simonton 5500 window?
Simonton 5500 series and Profinish Contractor Doors: $9,300
Sunrise model and Atrium 332 Series Patio Doors: $11,300
Monica - Homeowner - from 2017
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Monica, it's a tricky question and I kind of want to say no if it were just windows, but it might be right at the make or break price difference if you include the doors. I would go back to each one and see if they are willing to come off their price at all. Tell the Sunrise dealer that if he can get close to the Simonton quote, then you're ready to sign. Why isn't the Sunrise bid include a Sunrise door, that seems a bit strange to me. The Sunrise patio door is going to be better than an Atrium door.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Windows Reviews :: Verde Series
The Sunrise Verde uses the same frame as the "classic Sunrise," but comes standard with foam filled chambers, a foam wrap, and the Solar Clean glass package. (These features would have to be upgraded on the standard or classic Sunrise.) The Verde incorporates both good design and function that should make it a window worth looking at, depending on whether your local dealer carries this particular model (not all dealers are going to offer the Verde model.) I would give the Sunrise Verde Series a 4.7 out of 5 stars rating.
Dane - Site Editor
Sunrise Verde Window Bid
Hello, Dane. Thank you so much for your response to my original email!
I managed to get some more quotes. We are trying to replace 6 double hungs, have the trim for them wrapped in metal. Plus, we are looking to have trims for the rest of the windows (10 of them) plus the main door and garage door repaired and wrapped in metal so they will be low maintenance – now they are just painted wood and they are starting to get rotted or chewed through by mice.
I have listed the quotes by the vendors according to how much I trust them to do good quality work (#1 trust the most, #4 trust the least). They are all highly rated according to Google, Home Advisor etc reviews. Some companies offered quotes for trim repair/wrap only based on per window – so I've just multiplied them by 12, although I don't know if they will charge higher for larger windows or two-car garage door wrap.
There is one additional company (let's call this Company #5) that we are still waiting for quotes from. This company deals with Ply Gem, Anderson 100, and Simonton, as well as Marvin. I would put this company comparable to #2 below. This is a company that we've worked with and says they are confident that they can match or beat other quotes (of similar products).
All window quotes below are including installation (insert, not full frame) and metal wrapping the trims.
Company #1
Sunrise: $7,505 – no model name, but the description says it has: Ultra-U Plus Glass system (multiple layers of UV reflective coatings on the glass), a non-metal spacer (MAXEdge), an Argon gas fill, U factor of .29, triple-strip weather stripping, .04 air-infiltration rating, foam-filled vinyl frame.
With the trim wrap work: $8,898
Company #2
Revere Elite: $5,642
With the trim wrap work $8,042
They also offer Simonton (6500/Reflection) and said it will be $500-600 more.
Company #3
Sunrise: $5,220 - says standard for everything except S2100A Latitude glass and "fiberglass screening"
With the trim wrap work: $8,520
Sunrise Verde: Says about 20% more, so must be about $6,264 - insulated frame, Opti-View screen and Solar clean coating
With the trim wrap work: $9,564
Marvin Integrity: $7,573
With the trim wrap work $10,873
Alside Mezzo: $5,191
With the trim wrap work: $8,491
Company #4
Sunrise: $7,202 – not sure which model, the rep just said "Sunrise replacement windows" – no additional info provided.
With the trim wrap work: $9,722
Revere Elite: $6,140
With the trim wrap work: $8,660
What does the model of Sunrise that vendor #1 sound like? Is this Verde? Does it sound like a good window based on the description?
If we are going to go with all trims metal wrapped, #1 sounds like the best option, especially if them can come off $200. Would you agree? Are there windows from the Company #5 (that we are still waiting from) that I should ask for quote for (Simonton, Ply Gem, Anderson 100, Marvin)?
Company #1 also sells Marvin, but I'm afraid $8000s is in the top range of our budget and we won't be able to afford it anyway.
FYI, we are in Minnesota. It's possible we may move in 5 years or so, but we are not sure, so we are looking into this as if we will live in the house indefinitely. We are in middle class neighborhood.
Thank you in advance for your feedback! I find your sunrise windows reviews website super helpful so I hope you will continue it for many more years for everybody's benefit.
Aimee - Homeowner - from 2019
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Aimee, so....this is a tricky response when you say you are moving in 5 years. If I were moving houses in five years, I'd choose one of the lowest overall project bid. However, one of the lowest bids is Company #3, the Sunrise with the trim wrap work at $8,520. This is probably what I'd go with because the Sunrise is the better window than the Alside Mezzo. The Mezzo is the same window as the Revere Berkshire Elite.
Essentially, you have a bunch of different bids on two windows -- the Alside Mezzo and the Sunrise Classic. The Sunrise Verde is simply the Sunrise Standard or Classic frame with the three add ons. So when you get a bid on the Sunrise, it's for their "Classic or Standard" frame. It's a very good window that you can add upgrades to or you can get their bundled upgrades that they label their Verde, Vanguard, or Restorations series.
I'd go with the Sunrise #3 bid because the final cost is so close to the Revere and Alside bids, but it's for a better window. Of course, the reputation and work of the actual companies is something to factor in as well.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Verde And Pella 350 Series
We have 17 windows and one large sliding glass door to replace. I have several bids. The first is the Sunrise Verde and they want $2750 for the sliding door. The windows are $11,500. Window World also gave us a quote. Their lower end 4000 series is $6800 and their best model would be $7300 for the windows only. I was also thinking of getting a Pella quote based on the consumer reviews for their 350 series. Curious what you would do here.
Joe - Homeowner - from 2019
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Joe, the Sunrise Verde is by far the much better window here. However, your'e moving in two years so that really puts a kink in my advise. I think I'd probably go with the Window World option if I was you. If you were staying longer, I'd definitely suggest sticking with the Sunrise Verde.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Verde vs. Sunrise In House
Hi Dane, I think I've narrowed it down to two companies, one is the only dealer in Colorado to install the Sunrise Verde line, the other installs an in-house line of Sunrise. I would love to know your thoughts.
Both companies have good reviews, I had a bit more faith in the Verde salesman (and they have full-time employees do the install), the in-house guy didn't impress me as much, and they have sub-contractors (although he claims they have used the same group of guys for 2+ years).
The Verde is coming in around $1000 cheaper (on a 18k bill for 25 windows, that's not enough difference to make or break a deal).
Both have the s2210x glass. They both have insulated frames.
The in-house model has fiberglass reinforcement throughout the frame and sash. The Verde includes the solar clean treatment. Both have optiview screen.
I guess my question-- is the fiberglass frame/sash worth a grand? I have two windows around 3 feet wide, the rest come in under 30 inches.
Carl - Homeowner - from 2018
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Carl, the Sunrise Verde is typically an upgrade from the in house Sunrise. I do like the fiberglass reinforcement though. The Verde should come standard with foam fills. I think I would probably go with the Verde and the installer who seems a bit better.
Dan - Site Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Verde vs. Provia Endure
First off, thank you for your website. I enjoying being an educated consumer and your insight has been incredibly valuable in the daunting world of windows.
I'm looking to replace 25 windows in my old Denver house. I've done my due diligence and gotten bids from various, well reviewed, installers who are all pushing their partner brands-- Milgard (Tuscany), Simonton (5500), Amerimax (Craftsman), Provia (Endure) and Sunrise ("Premium"... an in house line supposedly with various components of the Vanguard, Restoration and Verde lines).
I'm not terribly impressed by the Milgard or Simonton. A few years ago I installed Amerimax in my basement and think they're fine (I used your site to help pick them over the Simonton), but I am particularly intrigued by the Provia and Sunrise for this project, which sound like a "step up" from the other lines.
Wondering your thoughts on these two windows. The Sunrise is coming in a bit more expensive, but not enough to truly make or break the decision... particularly because (ideally) these are an investment and (hopefully) will last for years/decades
Your insight is appreciated.
Carl - Homeowner - from 2018
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Carl, the Sunrise premium models are better I would say than the ProVia Endure. Having said that, the ProVia Endure is quite a good window. You've done a good job of getting your bids and weeding out the "lower quality" vinyl windows. (The Milgard, Simonton and Amerimax are all more or less solid second tier vinyl window companies, not low end.)
If you are staying in your home long term, I think paying a bit more for the Sunrise V, V, or R models is worth it. You may want to see if they'll match the ProVia bid—tell them that their bid is out of your price range and that you have a bid on the ProVia Endure that is right at the top of what you can afford. If they can match the ProVia bid, you'll sign a work order that day.
Give them a few days and see if they drop the price. Worth a shot...
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Verde vs. Simonton 9800 Series
Hi there, I am looking to slowly replace all the windows in our home (built in 1995) in Colorado. The major concern is noise and heat/cool transfer. The sun is pretty intense on a couple of the west facing windows. I got a quote from a local company who installs Sunrise Verde windows for around $950 a window and a larger company who does Simonton 9800 for around $1350/window.
Of course they both say their window is the best. Simonton's windows are triple pained- I'm wondering if that is better or unnecessary? We can hear a decent bit of car noise currently through the windows with a somewhat large street outside. I'm leaning towards Sunrise Verde because I liked the company and price tag better (my husband is worried about going with the lower bid) but is their a big difference between the windows? I don't want to regret a window purchase and are open to either, just want to know which one is the best choice! Thanks for your input!
Joy - Homeowner - from 2018
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Joy, both of these windows are good, but I'm happy to tell you that I would say the Sunrise Verde is better than the Simonton 9800 model. Sunrise makes a great window and the Verde model is one of their best. The Simonton 9800 model is their best window, but I don't think its air infiltration, fit, and tolerances can match the Verde.
That's quite a high per window price -- I'm assuming the installation is tricky in some way. You might want to grab a couple more bids from local companies just to make sure that that's the fair market price.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
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Joy, it sounds like the Andersen is not the way to go based on the price :) At the end of the day, pricing is based on the project and it sounds like you have the range of prices. On the plus side, you have a great window in the Verde and they gave you the best price. I think you've got your answer!
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Vanguard Windows Reviews
The Sunrise Vanguard window (now known as the V4000 series by MI) is similar to the Sunrise Verde model, essentially a Standard Sunrise frame with a fibercore reinforced sash and a recessed lever lock. It also comes standard with separate tilt buttons and is available as a single hung.
The Vanguard is somewhat of a specialty model that was originally only available to certain distributors (it's unclear to us if this is still the case). I would give the Sunrise Vanguard Series a 4.7 out of 5 stars rating.
Dane - Site Editor
Sunrise Vanguard
Hi, I have two quotes that I’m having trouble deciding between. Hoping for a quick word back.
Project: 10 openings and a sliding door that is oversize. Casements and a picture window in the front.
Sunrise Vanguard: $38750 installed
Great Lakes Premium Windows: $30123.00 installed – I’m assuming it’s the comfort smart line
Not sure which route to go here.
Thanks.
Andrew - Homeowner - from 2024
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Hi Andrew. So I definitely prefer the Sunrise Vanguard over the Great Lakes premium window - which I'm thinking is the ecoSmart series. But the question is it worth $7600 more...I tend to think not. I don't know, it's close :)
If this were my project, I would look at two additional pieces of information: how long do I plan to be in the home (over 10 years, then Vanguard - under 10 years, ecoSmart) and how the installation companies stack up against one another. Hopefully the answers to these two questions will push you in one direction or the other!
Dane - Site Editor - from 2024
Sunrise Vanguard vs ProVia Endure
Hi Dane: I read on your site a query from "Mark in 2022", talking about a 7200ft elevation. We are at 7550ft, so same issues. Capillary tubes instead of Argon gas. I'd love to see your list for Denver/Colorado.
That said, I am in the FINAL decision-making process with bids of Sunrise Vanguard and ProVia Endure (this rep then switched to Anlin to try to make it more affordable, saying the quality is comparable. Is it?).
It's 15 windows, one garden window, and three sliding doors; I really like the idea of internal blinds on the doors, as the sun is intense here.
Sunrise Vanguard with ProVia Endure garden window [$46,930]; with internal blinds on all three sliding doors; I like the narrower frame profile of Sunrise
ProVia Endure [$53,230]; with internal blinds on all three sliding doors
Anlin with ProVia Endure garden window [$43,000]; no internal blinds on the sliding doors
Thank you!
Amy - Homeowner - from 2022
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Amy, here are my Colorado recommendations (see below). Sunrise Vanguard, Provia Endure, and Anlin are three of the best available in your state. The Anlin Del Mar is pretty comparable to the Provia Endure. The Sunrise Vanguard is as good as windows get pretty much.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Vanguard Cost vs. Vinylmax Edison
Hi Dane, I live in Colorado which has severe temperature swings. Our house has original wood windows that desperately need replaced. We've gotten about 6 different bids, and I am vetting the contractor as much as the window itself. We have a lot of windows and it's a big project.
The two I've narrowed it down to are Sunrise – Vanguard (34K bid but a 20 week lead time) vs. Vinylmax Edison (40K bid with a 6 week lead time). Based on research they seem very similar and comparable and like solid window choices. Is one better than the other in your opinion?
Also, the contractor who is bidding with the Vinylmax window insists I need to coil wrap all my windows which is adding cost of about $13,000 to the project. The contractor who is bidding with the Sunrise product says with the new windows and full encasement we are getting it's not necessary.
1st – Is one window better than the other
2nd – Is Coil Wrap necessary?
Thank you for your help!
Jon - Homeowner - from 2021
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Jon, the Sunrise Vanguard is the better window in my opinion, although that lead time is brutal. I can't really say whether you need the coil wrap because I don't know what your exterior casings look like. If there is exposed wood, then you might need the wrap. What did the other 4 companies who gave you the bid say about the the coil wrap? I would probably go with the majority rules theory here.
The Vinylmax Edison is a good window, but I would put the Sunrise Vanguard above it. I'm not sure I could stomach the 20 week lead time though. If I were going to be in this home long term and I liked the Sunrise rep, I might consider it though.
As far as the coil wrap, I would continue to get leads until I collected enough professional opinions to make an informed decision.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Sunrise Vanguard Windows
Hi Dane, I have been reading on your site for couple of days. The information is really helpful.I have 20 windows and one patio door to replace. One big picture window with a half circle on top.70*70. 3 bigger sliders. We live in Denver, Colorado.
My dilemma now is:
The Sunrise Vanguard dealer is great, very knowledgeable but he told me that he won't do any Argon glasses. So he sells windows with Air but good coating packages, Omega 12 for Sunrise. The Vanguard definitely looks good and have a 3 1/4 thick frame.
My other preferred installer is willing to order any windows as their primary choice of Amerimax just got bought. I see Anlin Catalina and Del Mar have similar energy performance with Sunrise Vanguard. However, it is a 2 7/8 thick frame.
My current frame is 2 7/8. So Anlin would definitely needs less work. The Vanguard dealer called all 2 7/8 thick frames are builder grades and worthless. I try to convince my wife but she would not listen.
The Vanguard quote is 24k. Anlin is 18k for Catalina. I'm waiting for Del Mar quote.
My question is, does Argon really not that necessary? Is a 3 1/8 frame considered premium window while 2 7/8 considered as builder grade?
What do you recommend?
Thank you so much!
Lee - Homeowner - from 2020
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Lee, while thicker frames are an indication of strength and quality, the proof is in the numbers. For instance, the Anlin Del Mar should have energy efficient numbers close to the Vanguard, but I would think the Vanguard would still be the better overall window.
That being said, the real question is how do you balance price and quality?
I'm assuming the Del Mar quote will come in close to $21K. So Vanguard 24, Del Mar 21, Catalina, 18. The problem for me is that value wise, the differences are exactly what I'd expect.
If you are staying in this home forever, I would weight the Vanguard higher. If you are going to be out of the house in 8 years, I'd go with the Catalina. The Anlin Del Mar is a good window too. So...that's my dilemma. On the plus side, both of these manufacturers make excellent windows, so you win either way.
Argon is nice, but not necessary. They typically don't do the argon at your altitude, that's the issue I believe.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2020
[Lee's Reply]
Thanks so much, Dane. I like how Sunrise looks, especially the patio door. I've just received a referral from a friend for another Sunrise Restoration dealer. Good reputation in the neighborhood. I will find out what he got back to me on Wednesday.
In the meantime, I figured if I can leave the giant picture window, two windows mulled together with a bow and a square, to use another cheaper brand like Anlin Catalina or Amerimax, I might be able to afford Sunrise. Would it be a silly idea to do that? That window is in the hallway on top our main entrance. We don't really pay much attention to it anyway.
Best.
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Lee, that's a plan as far as I'm concerned.
The Sunrise Restoration is one of the best windows on the market. Close to the Sunrise Vanguard. Curious to see how they differ in price.
Lee - Homeowner - from 2020
Sunrise Vanguard Window Quote
Dane, I live in Lockport, IL (60441) in the suburbs of Chicago. My home is 25 years old and I am looking at a replacement of all my casement windows and one easement window. I have one specialty window (half circle glass) with two casements below, and two other matching specialty windows with ¼ circles above the casement (these two windows must also be tempered).
Most other windows are combination of casements of three or five with every other window openings,16 window locations total. My quotes are ranging from 38K-16K for Vanguard windows or “like-quality.” This range seems too broad and would appreciate any guidance to what I should expect in this area. If you need additional information, please feel free to ask. Thank you for any help you can offer. I appreciate all I am reading on your website.
Jason - Homeowner - from 2020
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Jason, you have a fair number of specialty windows, which means there are going to be bids all over the place—as you’ve found. Some companies are set up to deal with more custom orders than others. Others don’t like complicated so they bid the project high.
Send me the bid prices, brands and maybe a note on the reputation of each installation company (if you have them) and I’m happy to tell you which one I would opt for. The Sunrise Vanguard is a great window, but $38K seems high for what you’ve described!
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
[Jason's Reply]
Dane, thank for your reply. Let me offer a better idea of what I am being quoted for.
1 - 3 casement light with flanking swing outs (1/4,1/2,1/4)
1 - 3 casement light with flanking swing outs
1 - 3 casement light with center swing out
2 - 1 casement light with 1/4 circle top (two lights)
1 - 3 casement light with flanking swing outs
1 - 1/2 circle
2 - square windows below 1/2 circle
3 - 2 casement lights, both swing out
3 - 1 casement light with swing out
1 - awning swing out
I received the following quotes:
Signature Ultimate Series Casements by Marvin Wood Clad Windows for $49,600
Lifestyle Series Casements by Pella Wood Clad Windows $47,700
Vanguard Series Casement Windows by Sunrise Vinyl Windows - $38,825
Kensington KG4 windows for $17,450 (This quote was to replace the glass only on the 1/2 circle and two fixed square windows below it.)
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Poor internet reviews) Window World quoting "windows like the Vanguard Series" - $23,216
(Average to good internet reviews) A non measured quote of "Climate Solutions casements any size includes Cardinal366 Cardinal Neat glass and invisiscreen" for $16,000
I am still wanting on my final quote for the Marvin and Vanguard series. All quotes, unless noted, and for full replacements.
Thank you for your insight and experience with this. Respectfully, Jason.
Jason - Homeowner - from 2020
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Jason, I'd toss the Marvin quote unless you really want fiberglass windows. These usually run 30% more than vinyl, which bears out in your price quotes above. I'd toss the Pella quote, which is not a quality vinyl window. I'd also toss the two low quotes.
The quote that intrigues me is the Kensington for $17K, but I'm a bit confused if it's only glass replacement on all the casements?
The Sunrise Vanguard is an excellent window and is certainly a much better value than the two pricier bids.
These would be the two bids I would concentrate on, but they are so different it's hard to compare them to one another.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Vanguard Windows Review
Dane, we have 20 windows we are replacing. The first is from Gilkey Windows and the bid is $18,260 for a combination of picture and awnings. We might upgrade to the "Neat Glass" for $365, which is a Cardinal Glass option that keeps the window and sheds water easier.
The second bid is from Sunrise Vanguard from Windows Direct, which has good reviews on the Better Business Bureau, Google, and Angie's List. This quote is from $16,397 and I really like this window, especially the .02 air infiltration. They also offered the Sunrise Essentials for $14,341.
Our final bid is for the Soft-Lite Elements from a company called Windows Plus. They also have excellent reviews on the BBB, Angie's List, and Google. Their bid is $14,546.
Ken - Homeowner - from 2020
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Ken, the best bid is on the Soft-Lite Elements for $14.5K. The next one, but a far distant second, is the Sunrise Vanguard. The Vanguard is an excellent window, but the Elements is its equal and its $2K less.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Vanguard vs. Okna Enviro-Star 800
Hi Dane/Tim: New to this whole window replacement process. I found your website and was wondering if I could get some feedback on the below quotes? I am located in the Washington DC area and am looking to replace 31 double-hungs and 2 picture windows.
I've received the following quotes:
A: Okna Enviro-Star 800: 31 double-hungs and 2 casements for $23300.00.
B: Okna Enviro-Star 800: 31 double-hungs and 2 casements for $25300.00 (or double low-E glass pack for $29200.00)
C: Sunrise Vanguard: 31 double-hungs and 1 two-lite casement for $23500.00
D: Provia Endure: 31 double-hungs and 2 casements for $24000.00
For quote A and B, I got the A quote prior to knowing about the double low-E glass pack that B provided. I know the Okna's are highly ````````rated on your site, but so were the Sunrise Restorations (but not the Vanguards?)
Where would Provia lie on this scale?
Is the double low-E glass pack for the Okna worth the premium? My windows are too large to accommodate triple-panes so I was told this would be the closest solution/replacement.
The Sunrise guy recommended the Vanguards over the Restorations due to issues with the locks on the Restorations, which is contrary to what I had been reading - any news on this?
Have also heard of issues with the Sunrise middle rail sagging?
I have faith in the installation of B, C, and D (these were
referrals) but not so much with A (as I have no experience with them).
My understanding was that Okna/Himark had specific installers, so if you were on their short list, the installation quality shouldn't be as big of an issue? (this is regarding the price difference between A and B).
Pats - Homeowner - from 2019
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Pats, you have some fantastic windows here. Basically, you can’t go wrong with any of the products themselves, they are all top tier windows. Let’s throw out A because when it comes right down to it, the installation will make the bigger difference than the small differences between the window options here.
Thee upgrade to the better glass package is up to you. I kind of think it isn’t necessary given the quality of windows you have.
The idea of saying which is better between the Okna 800 windows, Sunrise Vanguard or ProVia Endure is tough. They are all fantastic. Put my feet to the fire, I’d probably list them as the Okna, Sunrise, then the ProVia.
I haven’t heard of any issues with Sunrise rails sagging in their better series, possibly in their entry level Essentials over many many years?
If this were my project I would take a hard look at the installation companies and choose the one with the best online reviews and reputation for professionalism and quality.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Vanguard Window Reviews
Hi Dane and Tim: I have been hunting for windows since September of last year and talked to nearly every vinyl windows company in the Atlanta market.
After decided on the Sunrise Vanguard, my wife and I decided to paint the house after the window installation is complete....Which made me STOP and think about looking to you for advice!
So here are my questions:
Do I really want to replace 45 windows with the Sunrise vinyl – and then paint the windows – or do I need to be looking at wood replacement windows?
How do you feel about a sash replacement kits (BMC wood kits), instead of using a complete vinyl, composite, or wood 'Replacement' window with it's built-in frame?
I have really enjoyed the site and your expertise on replacement windows and wanted your opinion on this decision.
I look forward to your response.
Rob - Homeowner - from 2019
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Rob, the Sunrise Vanguard is an excellent window and one that will serve you well with proper installation. However, you cannot paint vinyl without voiding the warranty so that's not a good idea. Have you looked at the exterior colors offered by Sunrise? These can add to the cost (quite a bit actually), especially if they are custom colors, but they will provide a great long term solution, assuming you find a color you like.
I personally would stick with vinyl or fiberglass over wood if long term value is high on your list. Wood is beautiful and can be painted, but it wears down MUCH quicker than these other materials. It also costs more. Note that some wood windows use a vinyl exterior cladding so that wouldn't get you where you want to go either.
Sash replacement kits are certainly viable but they require the window frames and sills to be in good condition and they require an installer who has some good experience with these. They have to be done correctly and I wouldn't trust them to just anyone.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Vanguard vs. Okna 500
Hello, I am replacing 11 30 year old metal windows. I would like vinyl windows that last but don't need rolls royce. Read a lot about windows that i am now completely lost on what to do.
Found one sunrise dealer, one Okna dealer and some Simonton dealer. Don't want Pella Anderson window world.
Have to go by what i find online for buying /installation of the windows.
Simonton dealer sells only the 5500 and 5050. He told me he will give me the 5050 windows with all the options so it will be like the 5500.
11 double windows for $5200
I dont have the sunrise an d okra quote yet. They’ll come this week in Could you give me ballpark figure for 11 double hung from sunrise vanguard or sunrise verde or the okra 500 so i know i am not being pulled over the table.
Also what glass package should i use down in the North Charleston South Carolina.
Don't know any installer with good reputation any suggestion?
Thank you for any info/help you would be able to provide.
Clinton - Homeowner - from 2018
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Clinton, your Simonton bid sounds good. The 5050 upgraded to the 5500 is a good window, very solid mid range vinyl window. Look at the Okna 400 or Okna 600 models or the Sunrise standard/classic frame. All of these windows are comparable and they are very solid non Rolls Royce vinyl windows that should serve you well given professional installation.
The Sunrise Vanguard will usually run $600 to $700 per window, depending on the installation needs. The Okna 500 might be more like $550 to $650, depending on the upgrades, size of windows, and installation requirements.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Vanguard Quote In Texas
Hi! I am in Texas, have a Lake home and am needing to replace the original aluminum frame windows from the 70's.
I have visited the Don Young showroom in Dallas and their window look good. Just waiting on a quote from the rep as they do not sell direct to customer. Requesting a quote on their vinyl and aluminum. Showroom said the aluminum would be about 25% more than vinyl. Local lake rep has been slow and have waited a month now with no quote although they have taken measurements. Will probably see if a Dallas rep will drive the hour and take measurements etc for a quote.
I have just gotten a quote on Sunrise Vanguard vinyl for 23 windows (9 single hung, 1 casement, 2 awning, 5 picture, 3 sliders, 3 shapes) for $16,894.85. (For $19,740. I can get white interior and tan exterior or about 15% more) They also quoted me $4924.22 for two Provia sliding patio doors. There is only one representative in the Dallas area for Sunrise and he has gotten good online reviews. He also drove an hour and gave me a three hour appt for presentation and measuring the windows.
My question is: is the Sunrise quote a reasonable number? We have owned this home for 20 years and will probably sell in the next 5-7 years. I'm good with the Sunrise if the numbers are reasonable.
Thank you for any input!
Tamera - Homeowner - from 2018
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Tamera, I like Don Young aluminum windows a lot -- they are high quality and ideal for Dallas. That said, Sunrise Vanguard is an excellent vinyl window. $734 per window is certainly within the range of what I'd consider fair. Same goes for the ProVia doors quote. Sunrise windows and ProVia doors -- you can't do much better than this!
However, in terms of whether or not the bid is the best you can do remains unclear without other quotes to compare it to. I would certainly take a look at the Don Young bid when your get it. If it were me, I'd go with the less expensive of the two if you are leaving the house after 7 years. Both these options are good, so I'd save the money.
When you go to sell the house, you can have your realtor tell the buyers that the windows are either Sunrise or Don Young and they probably won't know either. If they do know windows, they probably won't make a big judgement call between them.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Vanguard Bid vs. Great Lakes Bid
Hi Tim, I have 3 windows estimates for our home from 2 highly rated local installation companies and would appreciate your opinion of which gives the best bang for the buck, keeping in mind our limited time horizon. Some general additional information.
We live in a SW suburb of Chicago. Our two-story home was built in 1991 and has the original wooden casement windows. We plan on selling in about 5-years to downsize. Except for 1 window each facing N & S, all windows face E & W. We now have 5 openings that have 4 windows in each. These will be replaced by 3 windows with a "picture" window in the center. Some specific information on each bid.
The Great Lakes bid isn't specific about the line but the salesman gave us a Comfort Smart brochure. We would take advantage of the 5% cash discount making the cost $24,110.
The Evergreen Sunrise bid doesn't specify which line it is for but we were assured it was not for the Essentials or Vanguard series. Again we would take advantage of the 5% discount making the cost $26,040.
As stated, the Window & Door Superstore bid is for the Vanguard line, and I negotiated it down from $30,609 to the $28,900 shown. No discounts available.
Thanks for any assistance you can offer. And please let me know if I can offer any further clarification.
Dan - Homeowner - from 2018
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Dan, I'll give you the short answer to which window you should put in if you are only staying there for 5 years -- the least expensive one. I would go get a bid on a Simonton window myself and see if its less expensive.
Now here is my answer ignoring your timeline for staying in the house. Great Lakes makes a good vinyl window, but not as good as Sunrise. The Sunrise "Classic" bid is decent, but if it were me I would pay an extra $2K for the Vanguard over the Sunrise Classic.
I would go to all three and tell them that they are over your budget and if they can drop their price by $2000 you are ready to do. See what they say.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Vanguard Windows Quality
Hi Dane, we’re adding Sunrise Vanguard windows to our house. The framing is not included. The window people would put windows in only and it’s $740/window. Is that expensive? We’re in NC.
Thank you.
LC - Homeowner - from 2018
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LC, that's a pretty fair price for the Sunrise Vanguard, which is a VERY good vinyl window.
However, it wouldn't hurt to negotiate on the price to see where their bottom is, especially since they are only doing the windows (it's not like you are nickel and dining your GC).
Negotiate A Window Bid
I'd give it a try and see if they come off the price a bit.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Windows vs Andersen
What is your opinion about Vanguard windows made by Sunrise. We had a Rep out and he showed me the windows. They look nice. It seems you get a lot of bang for your buck. We are replacing 14 windows both double hung and sliders. We have had quotes from Renewal for 33,000, Anderson 100,200 for 25,000 and Simonton for 16,000. Not sure I like the look of the Simonton. We are waiting on the quote from Vanguard but would like to know your opinion of the windows.
Mary - Homeowner - from 2017
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Mary, the Sunrise Vanguard is an excellent vinyl window. So much more value for your money than the RBA, which is often just ridiculously priced. Andersen 100 is a composite frame, almost like a stripped down version of the Renewal (both of these are made by Andersen with fibrex). The 100 model is pretty good for the price, but no where near the quality or performance of the Vanguard.
Simonton makes a number of window series and their top end Reflections and Impressions series are good, but even those are not nearly as well made as the Vanguard. Obviously, I don't know how much the Vanguard is going to be, but it is a great window and should provide excellent long term value.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
[Mary's Reply]
The Vanguard came in at 13,895. I think we are going to go with that after your positive review.
Mary - Homeowner - from 2017
Sunshine vs Thompson Creek
Hi Dane and Tim! Thank you so much for all of your Sunrise windows reviews. I'm in the midst of selecting a firm for replacement windows. I have a 1937 Tudor with a 1988 addition in Northern Virginia/DC area. I have all casement-style windows with a large bay-box window in the front. The bay-box will have grills but the rest will be clean rectangular casements. I have quotes as follows:
Thompson Creek Vinyl Casements (local DC, MD, VA company that's well-known in the area). They make their own virgin vinyl windows. 50 yr warranty parts and labor. 47 windows and one fiberglass provia patio door with custom exterior color for $48,727.
versus...
Sunshine Contractors (Woodbridge, VA) installing Sunrise, Sunrise line vinyl casements. lifetime warranty. 47 windows with exterior color selection and one >fiberglass provia patio door for $34,750.
I had never heard of Sunrise before and the low quote made me feel it was too good to be true?... Sunshine Contractors did my GAF architectural roof and so far, so good.
Renewal by Anderson came in at $66k for less windows.
Thoughts? Thanks.
Kim - Homeowner - from 2017
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Hi Kim, so I have definitely heard good things about Thompson Creek, but the bid is not exactly cheap is it? Paying roughly $1000 per window is nothing to sneeze at -- even with the style and age of the home. (I LOVE tudor style homes by the way.)
The Sunrise bid sounds much more reasonable to me. Add to this that Sunrise vinyl windows are excellent, one of the best manufacturers on the market. The bid sounds much more in line with what I would expect, although again I certainly don't know the details behind the installation. Assuming Sunshine Contractors are reputable and have a good track record, this is absolutely who I would go with. You may even want to try to negotiate a better price with them.
Not surprised by the RBA quote, it sounds right in line with what they typically bid their projects out at. Not worth it by a long shot.
How To Negotiate A Home Window Bid
Dane - Site Editor - from 2017
[Kim's Answer]
Thank you so much Dane! Your confidence in Sunrise windows really helps as I did not know the name. Sunshine Contractors are A+ rated by BBB and Angies List. Thompson creek was recommended by many neighbors in the area on our listserv. When Sunshine came in so much lower with Sunrise I was worried it could be too good to be true! Another local installer (Hodges in Falls Church) also provided a Sunrise Vanguard quote but it was close to Thompson Creek in the high $40s. They also suggested aluminum clad wood windows from Marvin, but I like the warranty and less maintenance of the vinyl option. Thanks again!
Kim - Homeowner - from 2017
Sunrise Windows vs. Window World
Hi Dane, You may have received the email below. I forgot to mention that the Sunrise windows are Vanguard. What is the intercept space made of?
We need to replace 30 all wood Pella casements that are 30 years old. (some of the sills and sashes have rotted). We are considering Window World casements vs Sunrise vinyl. Are these windows in the same category? Are Window World's casements made by AMI? I saw in the WW catalog that they use a metal spacer and from my researching read that metal is not the way to go.
My husband wants the Sunrise windows with triple pane because they come with internal blinds (like we had with our Pellas). I have just read about the green tint and lower VT ratings of triple pane glass. I don't want to spend a lot of money because we will eventually need to sell the house, having been here since 1975. I am interested in a company with a lifetime warranty that is transferable to new owner.
The dealer was trying to sell us on the Elements Soft-Lite windows but I don't think we need to go high end at this point in our lives. That's when we noticed the Sunrise window in his showroom.
Would you please offer some guidance? Thanks so much.
Jan - Homeowner - from 2017
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Jan, the Intercept spacer is made of a tin plated stainless steel and is considered a warm edge technology. It's a good spacer. Window World uses AMI windows, which owns Alside. The 4000 and 6000 are not very good windows. The vinyl extrusions and components they use are low end, the metal spacer is just one example of this.
Sunrise makes a great window and the Vanguard and Element use the classic Sunrise frame, but both add some very nice upgrades. The Vanguard and Elements are both great windows, I wouldn't sweat which one you go for.
If I were selling my house in five years or less, I would be very tempted to go with the Window World because you won't get your money back with the extra you spend on the sunrise. Don't worry about the transferrable warranty, when you are selling your home no one pays any attention to the windows -- or if they do it's a single sentence that gets a head nod.
If you are selling your house in five years or more, I would go with the Vanguard. Excellent window.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Coastal Windows Reviews
The Sunrise Coastal series is the company's impact window and considered, like everything they make, quite a solid performer. Given the right price point, this is a series I would absolutely consider. One note: I don't hear a ton about this series in terms of its availability. Simonton, PGT, and CWS seem to be much more prevalent in the impact market. I would give the Sunrise Coastal Series a 4.8 out of 5 stars rating.
Dane - Site Editor
Coastal Options In Florida
Hello Tim and Dane, I need help selecting hurricane rated windows and doors for my home in Merritt Island, Fl. The home was built in 1995 and has plain construction grade single hungs, picture windows, arched top, sliding patio doors and front double doors.
I'm concerned with impact resistance, energy efficiency and warranty, so I'm looking for Miami/Dade certified, Low-E, Energy Star rated, white vinyl product(s) that can handle a Cat5 hurricane.
I have been researching companies including: PGT WinGuard, CGI Sentinel Windows, CWS, New South, Anderson Stormwatch A-series, Pella HurricaneShield, Simonton Stormbreaker Plus, and Weathershield Premium Coastal.
Frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed and would like a little guidance to help narrow the field.
PGT seems to be pretty well known, but I was concerned reading their warranty online that it doesn't cover water intrusion due to storms. Unless I misread it, that seems like a show stopper. I only recently heard about New South Windows, who are local, but don't seem to be widely known and have issues with their contract installers.
Which brands/products would you recommend considering more closely? Who really has the best mid and top range (performance wise) products?
Thank you!
Paul - Homeowner - from 2019
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Paul, you have lots of the good options in your list. The PGT is a good brand. Any installer worth their salt should properly seal and caulk the windows to prevent water from getting inside the walls, but storms can be tough if they rip off siding etc, I don't think the warranty proviso would be a killer, but make sure that whatever installer you use has a good reputation and addresses your concerns prior to the project. If their answers are unsatisfying to you, then find someone else.
PGT, Simonton, CWS, and Weathershield would be my picks from your list. In that order.
You might be able to find a Sunrise Coastal series dealer near your area. Also, look for a Soft-Lite dealer on the Barcelona Impact or the Armor Impact Series. The Sunrise and Soft-Lite would top my list over any that we have mentioned before.
I do like the Simonton Stormbreaker Plus window in terms of cost and overall value.
Read all of our New South Windows Reviews here.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Coastal Windows
I live in South Carolina on the coast and need impact windows that will meet the Miami Dade County standards. My budget is $24k and have a quote for $20k on the Wincore Stormforce Impact.
Steel - Homeowner - from 2019
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Steel, the Wincore Stormforce is a good impact window. You might want to get a few more bids. Soft-Lite Armor Impact, Sunrise Coastal, Simonton StormBreaker Plus or the PGT Winguard.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Coastal Performance in Tampa
Hi, Dane, really respect your opinion, having read many of your responses to questions of those navigating the maze of window replacement.
We are north of Tampa and looking to replace windows with hurricane impacts. Do the Sunrise Restorations or Soft-Lite Elements come in hurricane options for our area? Finding a good installer is Paramount, as you know. How do we find a reputable company for installation in our area? Any recommendations if these are not available? We have about 11 windows and two sliders.
Thank you in advance.
Bruce and Louise - Homeowner - from 2018
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Bruce and Louise, both Sunrise and Soft-Lite make an impact window that I would think would be available through several Florida dealers/companies. I can't say for certain that that's the case for Tampa but I would think there would be a dealer given the rather large market you live in.
Hello I'l looking to replace 15 double hung and two picture windows with Sunrise Coastal windows without impact glass. I live one mile inland in coastal South Carolina. My issue is trying to find out what warranty that Sunrise offers for these windows.
Walt, my understadning is that the Sunrise Coastal window comes with the same warranty as the standard Sunrise window. Here is a link to it online.
The Solace series is a "private label" window. Basically, the company allows certain dealers to market the window series under the name Solace. The Solace is really just the Restorations series, which is their premium vinyl window and one of my favorites. Check out the Restorations write up on this page to see my review. I would give the Sunrise Coastal Series a 4.9 out of 5 stars rating.
Hi Dane, I found your website and thought I would ask for your evaluation. We live in WI and yesterday signed a contract with a Minneapolis window contractor that installs Solace windows. We are having 3 double-hung, triple-pane replacement windows installed for $5748. 2 are 83-101 UI and one is <83 UI but with tempered glass (bathroom), all three standard white vinyl. Based on pricing I see elsewhere I feel like I got taken for a ride a bit...But the product seemed great and the contractor is well-reviewed...Any thoughts? Also, we have plenty more windows we could replace, this is all we could afford at the moment.
Brandon, I can't tell you with total certainty if the price is elevated -- those are relatively normal sized windows, but it is a very good window, and the contractor is well reviewed so he can charge more since, well, he is in demand. Personally, I would suggest getting a few more bids to see if the price is fair or not. The contract part makes this tricky though. I just think $1900 for a single replacement window sounds really pretty high...
I received another estimate today from a company called ALENCO
Ed, great window, but man that's a pricey bid. The custom black certainly raises that per window price quite a bit. I'd consider that your first good/decent bid. Better than the $11,814.00 for 6 ViWinTech Windows. Did I send you my list of brands I like?
Question --> Sunrise Solace vs K H H P Ascent vinyl replacements
Thomas, these windows are both very good. I would say these are a coin flip for me — and the coin flip lands on a very good selection either way. Have you checked out our Sunrise windows reviews yet? If your friend is selling their house, then the question of “is Kensington going to be around in 10 years” is a moot point.
Hello, we are looking at Solace Windows for replacement of all the windows in our home, as well as our patio door. They would be replacing the original windows in a single story home built in 1948-1949.
Sheila, yes $32,000 is a lot to pay, although the Solace window is essentially the Sunrise Restorations window, one of the best on the market. My advice would be to get a couple more bids from other companies who do service your area, although I get that this may be limited. To that end, here is my list of good and great windows: list redacted. Contact us for our more information.
I am considering Sunrise Solace or the Vinylmax Radiance plus double hung replacements and wondered if you could offer an opinion Dane. Thanks
Tom, the Sunrise Solace is the superior window to the Vinylmax Radiance Plus. It’s an excellent window! If the costs were similar, the Sunrise Solace is the better window.
Dane, I have just signed off on buying 25 double hung and three custom oval windows for my house in St Charles, Mo. from a Alenco dealer. I never asked the salesman this question but what is the U factor and Solar Hear Gain Coefficient of my new windows are. I would appreciate it.
Jim, they probably sell several models and those models may include upgrades such as a better low-e glass package, foam filled frames, or grids. All of these can affect U-factor and SHGC. Your Alenco dealer should have the numbers on lockdown for their products. I really don't know much about Alenco Windows, although they do seem to get some solid customer reviews. Do you know what window series you are buying?
I'll be staying at my house for another five years and need to replace 10 windows. 9 of them are double hungs and 1 is a picture windows.
Wow, some great bids there. I wish you could stay there longer once you get your new windows. I would go with once of your lower bids in this case, either the Sunrise Solace Series or probably the Vytex Fortis Series.
The V Class is sold through specialty dealers, distributors, and contractors. This high-quality vinyl window utilizes an insulated frame, a coved glazing bead, extruded aluminum screen, fiberglass-reinforced sash rails, triple weather stripping seals, and pick-resistant locks.
Hi, are v class windows through sunrise manufacturer good? Simple home improvement gave me a well-priced estimate and i'm wondering if i should go with them?
Miriam, the Sunrise V Class is a very nice window. I would prefer the V Class to a Castle. However, the online reviews and reputation of the installation company is almost just as important so make sure to look up both companies and compare. Castle does make a good window, but Sunrise makes an VERY good window. Castle Windows Reviews. All The Best.
Okay, good to know. I'll have the rep come to give me a quote so I have a basis for pricing comparison against the Okna 700 and two Sunrise quotes for Restorations and V Class casements. But I won't choose ComfortSmart as an option.
Did you know Ideal's window manufacturer went belly up, and that Ideal's shop was having supply chain issues?
Gus, I just had a lengthy conversation with Ideal and they assured me they are not going out of business. In fact, they are super busy like many window companies right now. There are TONS of supply issues with COVID though and that particular dealer you are talking to could be going out of business. But not the actual manufacturer. That's the update.
Still wonder why the 'V Class' windows are sold with a brochure that doesn't mention Sunrise. Why not? I queried the dealer again and he said they are kind-of a private label brand manufactured by Sunrise to the dealer's specs. Sounds like BS to me.
Joe, private label products are actually a legit thing in the window industry. They more or less say as much on the website.
Hi Dane, I would appreciate your opinion on the following.
Chris, my opinion is that the Sunrise windows are well worth the extra $1500 over the Pella 250 series. The extra $244 for the custom color seems expensive, but companies charge what they charge for custom features. The other prices are about what I'd expect for circle tops etc.
Hello Dane, I found your site to see reviews about Sunrise replacement windows. We received a quote for V-Class Specifications. I do not see any reviews by you about the Sunrise V-Clas Windows. Can you please reply with any feedback. We are seriously considering to order these windows. Are there better windows from Sunrise to consider?
James, the V Class is sold through specialty dealers, distributors, and contractors. This high-quality vinyl window utilizes an insulated frame, a coved glazing bead, extruded aluminum screen, fiberglass-reinforced sash rails, triple weather stripping seals, and pick-resistant locks. The V Class by Sunrise should be considered on par with the Sunrise Verde or Sunrise Vanguard.
My builder sent me to his window supplier where I was shown VClass Windows made by Sunrise. All 3 chambers of the frame are foam filled, the meeting rail is fiber reinforced, the lever lock is recessed, and the double hungs have an AI of .04. It uses their XL Edge Stainless Steel Spacer and LowE 366 glass. Sounds very similar to the Sunrise Restorations series except VClass does not have fiber reinforced vertical sash members.
Bill, I have heard of the V class window, however I have not heard much. So I took a look at their website, and it sounds like you were spot on in terms of the features and components that the V class includes. It looks as if there are two different options, one is a real wood interior and the other is a wood laminate option. You may want to take a look at how these compare, see if the local rep has samples of each. I tend not to recommend wood windows, unless you really are passionate about how good the wood windows look. I only say this because wood tends to expand and contract, although the plywood backing of the V class window is actually a positive since plywood has a crosshatch design that reduces the amount of contraction and expansion that will happen over the years.
Hello Dane, I was wondering if you can lend insight. We have two sets of sliding glass doors that face north to our back patio in Northern VA. We're looking to replace them and evidently if we want white on the inside and tan/almond on the outside to match the siding, we narrow our options significantly. Pella said they couldn't do it!?!
Henna, I have very good news for you. Both the Kingsroyal and the Sunrise Standard are WAY better than the Pella. Both of these sliders are great...so you should absolutely go with the option that saves you 30%. The only other real thing you should be comparing is the companies doing the install. You want to google [company name] reviews and see what reviews/ratings come up for both.
Hi Dane, we are replacing 12 double hung windows and a sliding door on our porch. We are looking at full replacement sliders (6) because we want the most window glass area as possible. Because of our desire for a greater visual field, we are considering a high end vinyl that is good quality, has a low profile and has a Cedar interior (reddish wood). The soft light window has a “Brazilian cherry” color that is a very close match, but the window frame seems Bulky. Can you tell me, what are the best high end vinyl sliders with low profile frame?
Mark, the Soft-Lite sliding patio doors do tend to run a bit bulky, but are excellent products. You might want to take a look at the Sunrise Restorations patio doors. I can't remember exactly how they compare to the Soft-Lite, but they tend to make a bit slimmer profile than the Soft-Lite. They are also offered in a number of faux wood interior options.
I'm looking for windows and sliding glass door, highest quality with most glass. For the three panel sliding door I saw the sunrise restoration (thicker frame).
Julia, the Sunrise Restoration and Marvin Integrity are both good series and doors. The Restorations series is the better quality of the two in my opinion, but the Integrity is a good product as well.
Dane, I am deciding b/n Sunrise and Simonton for a sliding door. Both look well built and pretty similar. The Simonton Innovo door is $1000 less than the Sunrise door. Any opinion?
Gregory, Simonton manufactures a good sliding door, while Sunrise manufactures a better sliding door. The issue is if it's worth an extra $1000? My gut would say no it's not worth the extra cost assuming you like the look of the simonton and it fits in with your windows etc. Take a look at our Sunrise Windows Reviews page for additional information.
Thanks for your reply. It's great to hear another experienced professional verify my thoughts on the wrapped wood frame door and also endorse the Sunrise brand. Acadia is a local company to the state of Maryland. Here is a link to their website. unfortunately, they don't offer much on their products but their history page gives some good insight into who they are as a company. http://acadiawindows.com/
Jim, It doesn't necessarily surprise me that the quote from Home Depot on the Andersen is the same price as the Sunrise from a local dealer. HD gets some pretty amazing pricing that they can pass onto the consumer. I'm not a big fan of the way they pay their subcontracted installers though (the rate they often pay is so low it's no wonder they don't do a good job). If you like the Andersen door and can order it through HD, you probably won't find a better price. I would say you just need to really vet the installer who they recommend, or go out and find your own who you trust to do the install properly and thoroughly.
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Soft-Lite makes two models, one called the Armor Max and the other called the Barcelona Series. The Sunrise model is called the Coastal Performance. Both of these companies make a very good impact window, just like they make an excellent vinyl window.
Other options that might be considered a second tier to this first tier include the Simonton StormBreaker Plus. PGT and CWS are in this same basic range and both companies make both impact and non impact window series.
Personally, I would try to get bids from as many local companies who sell these brands and go from there. You never know what type of pricing you are going to get until you start getting the bids.
Feel free to shoot any bids you get my way and I'm more than happy to help you give you my take on the quotes!
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Coastal Windows Warranty Details
It's confusing if it's 10 years or lifetime, I couldn't find a brochure for the coastal windows on the Sunrise web site. I've received one bid for 12K and liked how solid the coastal windows were. Is this a fair market bid.
If you have a link for a Coastal windows brochure it would be great. For a comp I received a bid of 8,900.00 for Simonton 5500 windows.
Thank you.
Walt - Homeowner - from 2018
[Website Editor Reply]
The dealer who gave you the Sunrise bid should have all of the details of the warranty (and tell you whether it differs in any way shape or form from the original Sunrise warranty).
Both the Sunrise Coast bid at $12K and the Simonton 5500 bid at $8.9K sound like reasonable bids. I would try and see if they will move on price at all.
https://www.replacementwindowsreviews.co/review-topics/negotiating-a-home-window-bid.html
My choice would be the Sunrise Coastal, but either one of these windows will perform well with professional and proper installation.
Good luck!
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Windows Reviews :: Solace Series
Dane - Site Editor
Solace Windows In Wisconsin
Brandon - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
If you would like, I can send you my list of good and great windows if you did want to continue your search...
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Solace Price Bid From Alenco
This time I just wanted an Estimate for the 3 windows that are viewable from the street.
Window: Solace (suppose to be a top of the line SunriseSeries)
2 windows Black frame inside and out with the SDL which is on the inside and out (looks really good): $4,905.00
1 window Black frame inside and out No SDL: $2,067.00
It's pretty spendy but the sample window he brought seemed like very high quality. I am not sure what the price of white windows would be but the Black Inside and Outside and SDL are extra costs.
I have another person coming over on Friday.
Ed - Homeowner - from 2022
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Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise vs Kensington KHHP Ascent
01) Sunrise Solace( Solace 366 glass) with U-Factor=> 0.28 SHGC=> 0.21
02) Kessington H H P (K H H P) Ascent with U-Factor=> 0.27, SHGC=> 0.19
I purchased my own 6 windows for my own townhouse Kessington QUANTUM 2 in 2005. Kessington declared bankruptcy in 2009 some managers bought up Kessington and reopened it under the Kessington H H P (K H H P) name. LONG FENCE/WINDOWS who installed my windows I think still honors the warranty,......but should I trust a company owned by the same managers who could run it improperly and declare bankruptcy yet again.
I have no idea how this all works,....What do you think you know about this business better than I.
How do the 2 companies and products "stack up" against each other.
S&K ROOF/WINDOWS is local MD-DC-VA installer for Sunrise Solace , and DREAM EXTERIOR also a local MD-DC-VA installer but for Kessington H H P (K H H P) Ascent .
Both prices are really close and both installation companies are, as far as I can tell, very good.
I am leaning toward Kensington H H P (K H H P) Ascent,..... but the bankruptcy thing is bothering me.
A friend has a pet sitting business. The Pandemic destroyed her business and replacement windows would make their house more marketable should it become necessary to sell their house.
I am helping them with the windows purchase.
Thomas - Homeowner - from 2022
[Website Editor Reply]
However, I take your point about the bankruptcy — from what I know Kensington HHP is quite strong, but I don’t have a crystal ball. Going with a company like Sunrise with a longer track record would probably be a factor in the decision. I would probably go with the Sunrise myself.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Solace Windows Reviews
Their bid for 30 windows- 21 double-hung, 1 picture window, and 8 basement windows (2 will open, 6 will not), plus the patio door was just under $32,000.
We like their warranty, and the fact that they will come do all the work themselves (no sub-contractors). The windows themselves seem pretty decent. An added challenge is we live in a fairly rural area (population 3300) and may be limited to who will service our area, as far as other installers. We live in the north-central part of the US.
However, $32,000 is a very big number, and we are having a difficult time pulling the trigger- not knowing if this is the ideal solution for us?
Appreciate any advice you can give!
Sheila - Homeowner - from 2021
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Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Solace vs Vinylmax Radiance Plus
Tom - Homeowner - from 2021
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Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Solace Windows By Sunrise
Jim - Homeowner - from 2020
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Jim, I apologize, I didn't see the title of your email. So you are buying the Sunrise Solace window. My understanding is this window is equivalent to the Restorations series, but I would love for you to confirm this. This would help me offer advise to consumers down the line with this question. You can expect a U-factor of 0.27 and an AI of 0.04.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise Solace Window Bids
Thank you for your advice. These are the estimates I've received thus far.
Sunrise Solace Series: $5695
Okna 500 DX Series: $6245
Soft-Lite Imperial LS Series: $6930
Soft-Lite Valley Brook Pro Series: $5995
Vytex Fortis Series: $5795
Kory - Homeowner - from 2020
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Tim - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise VClass Series
The V Class should be considered on par with the Verde or Vanguard Series. Each window has some different features and upgrades, but generally they are about in the same quality range, which is to say very solid. All are first tier vinyl windows. I would give the Sunrise VClass Series a 4.8 out of 5 stars rating.
Dane - Site Editor
Sunrise V Class vs. Castle
Miriam - Homeowner - from 2021
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Dane - Site Editor - from 2021
Sunrise V Class Quotes
Gus - Homeowner - from 2021
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Tim - Site Editor - from 2021
Sunrise 'V Class' Windows Question
How do I make sure the windows anyone installs are the windows I ordered? Are they usually marked with the name somewhere? I notice many or most of them really look alike.
Thanks again.
Joe - Homeowner - from 2020
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http://www.vclasswindows.com/about-vclass/
Often, on the hardware (slide latch) will be a brand marking or molding indicating the window brand. It's not always the case and I agree it's odd that all companies don't make it clear that they made the window. Shouldn't they be doing some brand marketing by labeling their product clearly?
There are a number of head scratchers in the window industry that I don't get. Any legitimate company should be installing the product they told you they were going to install. Ask about this when they bring the windows to install and ask how you know they are installing the V class.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2020
Sunrise V Class or Pella 250
I have a quote for Pella 250 Series windows in the amount of $10,025 (includes installation, taxes).
I have a quote for Sunrise V Series windows in the amount of $11,508 (includes installation, taxes).
In your opinion, assuming I can’t get Sunrise dealer to come down on price, are the Sunrise windows worth the additional cost?
Also, do the prices for each company seem reasonable or on the high side for single hungs with standard grids and painted exterior colors (the painted color adds $244/window with Sunrise)?
The most expensive windows are one in the living room, at $1934 for 36 X 90 size with circle top, and one bedroom window that is $1818 for 36 x 60 with full eyebrow. The other windows are in the $730 - $820 range (Sunrise prices).
Chris - Homeowner - from 2019
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However, I'd get two more bids from companies that are similar in price and quality to Sunrise to see if other companies will give you a better deal on their prices. I don't think this is a bad quote, but it doesn't strike me as his lowest quote. I'd be curious whether the Sunrise dealer wouldn't lower his price if he knew you were getting more bids.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2019
V-Class
Thank you and Regards.
James - Homeowner - from 2019
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The best window from Sunrise is the Restorations model. It has a few nicer upgrades that will be reflected in the price. Fro the most part, the V Class from Sunrise is a very nice window.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2019
Sunrise Windows vs Andersen 400
Have you heard of VClass Windows? I am trying to decide between VClass, Andersen 400, and Pella fiberglass.
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Wood windows typically carry a 10 to 20 year warranty, whereas vinyl will almost always carry a lifetime warranty. In addition, wood windows will typically not offer the same performance numbers (due to the organic material and the expansion contraction issue) as a solid vinyl window and they require more maintenance. I would get in contact with sunrise to find out how good that laminate looks, which is a nice alternative because you are dealing with a faux wood that can look quite realistic but does not have the same issues that wood often does.
The Pella fiberglass window or Impervia model is, in my opinion, a step below other fiberglass windows such as the Marvin Infinity or even the Marvin Integrity. I find the Impervia feels a bit flimsy in my hands compared to other comparably priced models.
I happen to really like the Anderson 400 wood window, especially the Woodwright model as opposed to the Narrowline. However, this is also a wood window and carries the very same downsides that any wood window does. Having said that, in terms of wood windows I rate the Anderson 400 at the top of the pack.
I would be curious to see how the Anderson 400 and The V class sunrise window compare in terms of price, I would have to assume that the V class would be 20% to 25% less. If it were me, where budget always tends to rank high on my list, I would probably rate them in this order; the Sunrise VClass, Anderson 400 and then the Pella.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2015
Sunrise Door Reviews And Prices
Sunrise vs. Soft-Lite Kingsroyal
The quotes we have are a Kingsroyal model from Softlite - which I don't see listed on the website in the softlite models. Low-e double pane argon filled super spacer which is listed with a .28 U factor.
The second quote we have is for a Sunrise Standard Ultra-U Plus Low E glass and a u factor of .29
The Sunrise quote is 30% more than the Kingsroyal and has a slightly higher u. It seems like a no brainer ---- but I'm worried there is something else I'm missing. Is Kingsroyal lower quality than Sunrise? Is there something else i should be comparing?
Thank you!
Henna - Homeowner - from 2022
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Dane - Website Editor - from 2022
Sunrise Windows Reviews On Patio Sliders
Mark - Homeowner - from 2018
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The Andersen 100 composite is available in a relatively slim profile, although it won't be available in an interior wood. They do have some nice options on the door, just not this one. In addition, the energy efficiency data on the 100 series is not up to par with either the Soft-Lite or the Sunrise.
I'll try to think of some other options, but off hand that's all I can really come up with.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Restoration Sliding Glass Doors
The Marvin integrity all ultra fiberglass (thinner frame, see attached specs, 10 year warranty on parts & 20 year on glass, PG 30). I preferred the fiberglass thinner frame but am not educated on whether it is a quality window or not. I have not seen anything else? What do you think of the these two? Which manufacturers make the best fiberglass sliding glass doors?
For double hungs would you go with sunrise restorations, Marvin integrity, or something else? My preference is fiberglass double hungs or vinyl that is strong and thinner framed for more glass? Which manufacturers make the best fiberglass double hungs?
Thanks.
Julia - Homeowner - from 2018
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Marvin is probably the best known fiberglass window frame manufacturer, but I like Enerlux as well. They are a smaller operation, but they may ship to you.
A good quality vinyl is on par with fiberglass, but some people have their preferences. Make sure you get good quality installation and you should be good to go.
Tim - Website Editor - from 2018
Sunrise Sliding Doors vs. Simonton Innovo
Gregory - Homeowner - from 2017
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Dane - Site Editor - from 2017
Sunrise Patio Door Prices
The quote I've received for the Sunrise door was $2875 for the door installed. Does that sound pretty reasonable to you? I did shop a quote from Home Depot on an Anderson door and the Sunrise is almost as expensive as their quote. Thanks again for the insight!
Jim - Homeowner - from 2016
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