>Daylight max window uses a slightly narrower frame that will provide more viewing area, but will sacrifice a bit in terms of performance numbers. However, I'm not a big fan of HD installation as a general rule of thumb, I worry that the subcontractors won't do a great job and then it won't matter what window you bought.
If you do go with HD, make sure to speak with the installer and ask him for a quick rundown on how the install will go and see how thorough his answer. Ask this same question of the other installer and see how their answers compare.
I would say go with the better installer over the better window since these two are so close and made by the same company – basically they are both no frills mid range vinyl windows, one is marketed as a west coast model and the other is marketed as a HD exclusive model. The quality of the install should be the difference.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2019
Simonton Daylight Max Reviews 2019 And Earlier
Window Quotes In Central Florida
We are in central Florida and obviously the summers are quite warm and sticky. We've received a number of bids and would love to get some input in terms of pricing and company. We need to remove and replace 15 windows.
Pella 250 Series (Lowes): $10,660
Simonton 6100 Series (Home Depot): $15,238
Renewal by Anderson: $30,000
Bran - Homeowner - from 2018
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Bran, the RBA quote is way too high. I like the Simonton 6100 Series, but it's too expensive. I'm not a huge fan of the Pella 250 series, but I like the price. I think you should get a few more bids, maybe on the Simonton Reflections 5500. I would think it would be close to what you were quoted out at for the 6100 series. Sometimes HD doesn't have the best bids compared to a local rep with less overhead.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Simonton Daylight Max vs. Milgard Tuscany
Hello Dane and Tim, I like in the Seattle, WA area and am needing to replace my windows on an unscheduled basis. I have Comfort Design (CDI) “Comfort” series windows that were extremely poorly installed. All of them protrude from the house about an inch and one is right under the drip edge of the siding, so that water has been able to pool against the siding and rot it.
That one is literally falling out of the house right now since it seems to have been mostly held in by caulk and one of the caulked surfaces has rotted. I suspect the windows themselves aren’t great either, since the bay window frame has some cracking on the exterior as well and the seals on the sliding door have failed.
I want to put decent windows in that I’m not going to have to worry about, but it is hard to find good comparison info on windows. I really, really just want to do this once. I read through a bunch of entries on your site and it seems that the Milgard Tuscany is one of your most common recommendations. But one of the answers on your site also suggested Anlin as better than Milgard for year 8 and beyond, and those aren’t available here apparently.
I plan to be here another ~20 years minimum, so if there are problems around the 8 year mark that is going to be my problem again. For this kind of money, I want to have reasonable confidence that I won’t have to deal with them for the longest possible time.
I have 8 windows: 5 side sliders 68”-72” wide x 35”, three 23”x35” privacy glass single hung windows, a sliding door (60”x80”), plus a big bay window (20”+80”+20” x 60” tall).
So far, after tax, Milgard Tuscany comes in at $12,800, and Simonton Daylight Max at $13,200, both including repairing the rot I know about and replacing the window seat area of the bay window and the interior wood casing (there is the seat, a wood “roof” to the area the same size as the seat and wide wood vertical pieces before the windows start) which was heavily water damaged by the previous owner keeping plants directly on the wood. It also replaces the master bedroom sill, which is similarly water damaged.
Those quotes seem high to me based on your site, but maybe my windows are bigger than average? Approximately $4000 (varies a bit between brands) of those quotes is just dealing with the bay window. I was surprised that the Simonton ones were actually higher than the Milgard Tuscany ones based on what I read from you guys as well. The contractor for both of those is the same, and comes highly recommended from a number of my coworkers.
I also have a bid from Pella for their 150 series on most and 250 on the bay and slider at $12,500. I work at a large company and there is a vocal minority of people with Pella windows in one of the homeowner social discussion forums that are huge fans. They haven’t explicitly put the siding repair, window seat or master bedroom sill in the quote (those things all have line items in the Milgard and Simonton quotes), but the person that came out for the quote verbally and in email said those things are built in.
I am waiting on it to show up in a revised contract before I would sign anything, but I’m assuming he’s operating in good faith for the moment. The contractor for those is apparently Pella themselves, using W2 employees. The 150 series seems to be .29 u-value while the 250 series seems to be .27.
Anderson is coming tomorrow to bid, since I heard they have decent windows, albeit with an annoying high pressure sales pitch. If anything, they are a good price check.
With this set of things, do the prices seem reasonable? I expect that keeping good employees with the construction boom here adds some cost; but with the numbers in your other answers, the price per window seems high. Is Milgard Tuscany still your choice out of these? Is there a fourth bid I should get? I want to get on SOMEONE’S schedule this coming week due to lead time and minimizing how much of the winter rainy season I’m depending on plastic taped up around the known-bad window to keep the water out.
Thanks a bunch for the Simonton Daylight Max reviews posted and your help!
Matt - Homeowner - from 2018
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Matt, I have to say that the Pacific Northwest stumps me a bit in terms of finding a good window. The Milgard Tuscany is a decent window as is the Daylight Max. The Pella 250 is probably somewhere in that region too, certainly no better the the Tuscany. I would say the Tuscany, followed closely by the Daylight Max. I've looked at the performance data at the Daylight max in an awning and casement and found them to be impressive. Worth considering.
Simonton Daylight Max Performance Data
The bids seem high on the face of it, but it is due to all that work on the siding and to the Bay window. But more bids will give you a better overall picture of the cost of the project.
If I was going to make a recommendation on a window I thought would be in your area, it would be the Simonton Reflections 5500 series or the Simonton Impressions 9800 series. Either of these would be a better window than the selections you have. But again the Daylight Max in the casement might be an option.
Ask your contractor if he has access to more Simonton options. Their premium windows with a glass upgrade are pretty solid, especially with a contractor who is used to working with the brand.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2018
Simonton Daylight Max STC Rating
The sales guy from Brothers found the Simonton Daylight Max STC rating of 33 /35 (w/ sound package / sound package w laminated). I'm concerned he made it up!
I think I may now consider interior window inserts for noise reduction as the more I read, the more it seems they provide better noise reduction for a much lower price. The only reason I can see to get new windows instead is if doing so will increase the sale price of my home.
Thank you again!
Lisa - Homeowner - from 2016
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Lisa, I'm not sure you mentioned the salesman had the STC ratings of 33/35. That sounds about right and actually these are pretty decent numbers. You may want to consider the Daylight Max with this STC -- it's not an amazing STC rating, but for the price, it's pretty darn good and our Simonton Daylight Max reviews prove that in my opinion.
I agree that you could go with inserts and save some money. The only issue with the inserts is opening and closing the windows, which I'm not sure applies to you or not, but keep this in mind.
One company that I really like for inserts is Indow windows out of Portland Oregon. Give them a ring and see if they have a rep who services San Francisco, I would bet they do. Their website has some nice info in terms of how the inserts work and what they cost.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2016
Simonton Daylight Max vs. AMI 80 Series
Hi Dane, We have quotes from 2 companies and would like to get your suggestions in choosing the best value. Below are the quote for 25 windows, 1 sliding doors and 1 French door.
Quote 1: Milgard Styleline Series for $16,980 (all 25 windows single hung)
Quote 2: AMI 80 Series, for $16,653 (of the 25 windows:7 picture windows, 18
single hung windows)
Quote 3: Simonton Daylight Max for $ 18,414
Your opinion will be highly appreciated. Thank you and have a great day.
Yuliana - Homeowner - from 2018
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Yuliana, the Simonton window is the best of the three windows you have check out our Simonton Daylight Max Reviews for confirmation and window specs.
Here is a link to air infiltration numbers of the Daylight Max. In general, these numbers aren't bad. Not great numbers, but decent enough.
DaylightMax Air Water Structural Testing Data
I like Simonton windows, they are a good company and generally make a decent vinyl window.
If you upgraded to the Milgard Tuscany then I would have to give the nod to the Milgard option, although I'm not a huge fan of their pocket sill.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Simonton Daylight Max 7300 Reviews
Hi Tim, we are trying to replace about 20-25 windows around the house. We are looking into getting vinyl windows. Wondering about your review on Simonton window series 7300 windows?
Replacing windows are not so cheap but also we want to use right windows for our house. Our house is in Sausalito, Ca.
Anne - Homeowner - from 2018
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Anne, the Simonton Daylight Max is not a bad window by any means. If I were buying this window, I would upgrade to the best glass package I could afford. In terms of air infiltration, the window is a bit all over the place so I would make sure you are buying a window with a sub .10 air infiltration rating. Here is a link to the Daylight 7300 Air Structural Data. The company makes a better window in the Impressions 9800 and the Reflections 5500 series, so that's something to consider. Simonton offers a nice warranty and is a strong company in general.
If you want some comparison quotes from different companies, try Anlin, Amerimax, and Milgard. They should have local companies around SF that carry these brands. I would say these four companies all make pretty solid vinyl windows that are all available throughout most regions of California.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Simonton Daylight Max Reviews vs Anlin Panoramic
My small condo on the southern California coast has a total of 3 vinyl (casement) windows - a single pane, a double pane and a triple pane. (The center pane on the triple is fixed, does not open). Salt air does a job on the casement hardware, plus when the windows swing open they encroach on my (already small) patio space. So I want to change to sliders (XO and XOX) on the double and triple, respectively, and a single hung on the smaller single pane window. All panes are about 22”W x 54”H.
For the retrofits, I think I need to use narrower frame models, so as to maximize viewing area and not deviate from the look of the existing casement windows in the building. The HOA needs to approve this project, and they won’t want the windows to look too different from the exterior from what’s already there.
So far I have quotes from 4 contractors; 2 on Simonton Daylight Max, 1 on Anlin Panoramic, and 1 on Alside Montrose. I’ve eliminated the Alside Windows options for quality reasons. To do the job with Simontons was quoted at $3,365 and $2,175, respectively (big difference).
Anlin was quoted at $3,245. I want to get one more Anlin quote, which I am looking for now. But first of all, don’t you think these prices (even the lowest) are high for this small, 3 window job? I like the feel of the Anlin, but if I have to pay an extra $1,100 (about 50% more!) for the project to get Anlin, not sure it’s worth it. How much more should I be willing to pay for Anlin than Simonton in this case? We do plan to keep this condo for the foreseeable future.
Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!
Martin - Homeowner - from 2018
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Martin, I took another look at the numbers on the Simonton Daylight max window and was pretty impressed by the air infiltration .06 and U-factor .29 on the sliders. I'm curious about the price difference between the Simonton quotes. Was it through two different Home Depots? The Anlin Panoramic would be my pick of the bunch so far, although the lower Simonton quote is tough to ignore. I would be careful to properly vet the installers on this one since its so much lower.
In terms of cost, it's tough to say. These aren't three standard windows, the XO and XOX are more complex set ups -- some people might define your project as 6 windows.
You may want to throw a Milgard Tuscany quote in for no other reason than to see how it compares. If it's in that same price range, then you know the numbers are fair. I might take the lower Simonton quote back to the Anlin dealer and ask him to match it. (Or tell him that the price is more in line with what you were hoping to spend.) He probably won't match it, but I'll bet you will see something close to his lowest price point.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2018
Simonton Daylight Max vs. Anlin Del Mar
Hi Tim, I was found your website and reviews and I love it! I wanted to ask a question. I'm in the middle of a window replacement project and the two brands I have been looking at are the Simonton DaylightMax and Anlin Del Mar Series.
I know the U-value difference between the two are .29 and .26 which isn't much. I know the Anlin windows use a 3/8" and 1/8" glass where the Simonton is a 1/8" and 1/8". I also know the Anlin has a fancy ball-bearing roller to help with opening the windows. Other than that, I can't see any major difference.
I got a quote for each installed:
Simonton Daylight Max - 21 windows - $9550
Anlin Del Mar - 21 windows - $15,360
Is there any information between the two you could share that I can't find that could help me make a better informed decision. To me it looks like the Anlin has a little more bells and whistles but both are kind of in the same ballpark but I'm just not seeing justifying the price difference. I live in San Diego where the weather is relatively mild most of the year. I don't have to deal with extreme heat or cold for long periods of time.
Steve - Homeowner - from 2017
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Steve, the Anlin is the better of the two windows for fit, tolerances, and air infiltration. However, I would be hard pressed to say you should spend $6K more on the Del Mar over the Daylight Max. San Diego is a pretty mild climate
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Daylight Max vs Anlin Del Mar Take 2
Good morning -- I happened upon your site and am wondering if you could give me an opinion on choosing between the Simonton Daylight Max and the Anlin Del Mar replacement windows? I live outside of Sacramento, CA; temperatures range from 28 degree lows in the winter to 112 highs in the summer. Thanks very much -
Robyn - Homeowner - from 2017
[Site Editor's Answer]
Robyn, both of these windows are decent, but the Daylight Max is not as good as the Anlin Del Mar window. The Daylight Max is more of an entry level/mid range vinyl window that uses a thinner frame with more glass area. (Our Simonton Daylight Max Reviews page will confirm this.) Go with the Del Mar option and you will be quite happy come year 8 and beyond.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Simonton 7300 Daylightmax vs Anlin Panoramic
Hi, I'm looking at Anlin Panoramic retrofit Windows, for the 2.5 inch verses the 3.5 inch frame for bigger views. Are these as good as their Del Mar and Catalina series Windows?
Also comparing them to Milgard and Simonton 7300 Daylightmax series. How do any of these compare to Amerimax? What series do you recommend from Amerimax? Can't find a distributer/installer yet for Amerimax and the Anlin rep told me Amerimax is rumored to about to go out of business? Any info on this?
What do you recommend please? The Anlins and Simontons are about equally priced. Thanks so much.
Bob - Homeowner - from 2017
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Bob, the Anlin Panoramic is a good vinyl window, but because they are maximizing the glass area, you will lose some performance and possibly some long term durability. Not much, but there is always a trade off in these decisions. The Del Mar and Catalina use a slightly stronger frame, but you lose out on the extended glass area. All of their windows are solid though so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I would put the Anlin windows on par with the Milgard Tuscany, although I might give the nod to the Anlin. I would definitely go with the Anlin over the Simonton 7300 Daylightmax series. I think Anlin makes the better window. Normally, I see bids on Anlin that are much more expensive than Simonton. Have you had a chance to check out our Simonton windows reviews? This is a great way to check out homeowners opinions that might help you in your quest.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2017
Simonton Daylight Max vs Milgard Tuscany
Good morning, my wood-sided 'ranch' house was built in the 80's and I have black aluminum framed windows. Some of the glass panes have become 'foggy'. Also, some of the frames don't glide smoothly anymore. My husband wants to have the windows replaced with the Milgard Tuscany retrofit windows. Is it better to use the retrofit windows or do a complete replacement although they are much more expensive? (I don't like how wide the frames are with retrofit windows -at least on the houses I've seen that have been 'retrofitted'. Thank you for your assistance.
Lynne - Homeowner - from 2016
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Lynne, this is certainly the trade off with retrofit windows, this loss of glass area. The full replacement windows can be expensive, especially depending on what material is on the outside of your home. A cheap option is to go with something like Indow windows, which are interior inserts, and are much cheaper than replacement windows. They aren't for everyone, but they are an option if you can find a dealer. Google "Indow windows in Texas" and see if anything comes up.
The other option if you want to keep the cost low and go retrofit is to find a more narrow frame. The downside here is the energy efficiency that the window will produce. A mid range product with a narrow frame is the Simonton Daylight Max and a high end vinyl window option is the Sunrise Restorations. The one nice option on the Sunrise is an interior laminate that looks very close to wood, but is actually a vinyl and doesn't require the same maintenance and care as wood.
Beyond this, I'm not quite sure what to tell you. Ultimately, you have to go with one or the other. I can't quite understand why the industry doesn't come up with a solution that makes it easier and cheaper to "swap" out windows, but they don't.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2016
Simonton 7300 Daylight Max
I am looking at 6200 Series Simonton slider with a vantage point clear view window by home depot or a 7300 Simonton daylight max slider and window by another window co. Which series is better is better?
Alice - Homeowner - from 2016
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Alice, the 6200 series is probably the better of the two, but not by a whole lot. The Daylight max window uses a slightly narrower frame that will provide more viewing area, but will sacrifice a bit in terms of performance numbers. However, I'm not a big fan of HD installation as a general rule of thumb, I worry that the subcontractors won't do a great job and then it won't matter what window you bought.
If you do go with HD, make sure to speak with the installer and ask him for a quick rundown on how the install will go and see how thorough his answer. Ask this same question of the other installer and see how their answers compare.
I would say go with the better installer over the better window since these two are so close and made by the same company – basically they are both no frills mid range vinyl windows, one is marketed as a west coast model and the other is marketed as a HD exclusive model. The quality of the install should be the difference.
Dane - Website Editor - from 2016
Simonton 7300 Reviews
We are in Valencia California and looking at vinyl windows. Our local well reviewed company has Simonton 7300 Daylight Max and I'd like your comparison thoughts between this and Milgard Tuscany series. We have a mixture of block frame and aluminum retrofit windows. Is there something else we should be looking at?
Colin - Homeowner - from 2015
[Site Editor's Response]
Hi there Colin, The Simonton 7300 Daylight Max is an okay to decent vinyl window, but I would say the Milgard Tuscany is a better and more durable window. There are some very solid vinyl window manufacturers in California that I would suggest you take a look at and see if there are any local companies that carry them. One is Milgard, which you already have a bid for. The other two that come to mind is Anlin and Amerimax, I would suggest their mid range vinyl options if you want to maximize your long term value.
Tim - Site Editor - from 2015
Simonton Daylight Max Reviews
Can you please give me your opinion of the Simonton 7300 Daylight Max Series dual paned, vinyl replacement window, with double lifetime warranty? I'm interested in heat, noise reductions and keeping the house warmer and without drafts in the winter. I live in Anaheim, CA. Thank you.
Marsha - Consumer - from 2015
[Site Editor's Response]
Marsha, the Simonton 7300 Daylight Daylight Max Series is going to be sold on the west coast - I see you are in Anaheim so this certainly makes sense. This window uses a narrow frame, which means better glass area and less energy efficiency. It comes standard wth ProSolar glass, which is a standard low-e1 and argon fill combo. It uses a stepped sill, which is a decent design feature and comes with a single lift rail. The double and single hung windows offer a tilt in feature for easier cleaning, which is nice.
It's pretty close in terms of number and features to the Simonton Madeira model. Overall, it's a decent window, but check the nfrc.org website for performance numbers and you are going to see it's certainly no world beater. Are there better windows out there? Probably. Since you are in California, I would also suggest getting a bid from an Anlin dealer, as well as an Amerimax and Milgard dealer. All quality vinyl window manufacturers and honestly probably all a step above Simonton.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2015
Opinion On Daylight Max
Please give your opinion on the Simonton Daylight Max. I live in San Diego, my window sill is 20 years old and rotted. Is retrofitting a viable option, with rebuilding the sill either with treated wood or wood encased aluminium? New construction is 3x the cost! Thank you, Jenna
Jenna - Homeowner - from 2018
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Honestly, you need to ask all three or four (in your case) contractors or companies who come out to give you a bid whether they recommend new construction or whether you can get away with a replacement or retrofit window. This gives you a nice broad set of professional perspectives that should provide a general consensus. It sounds like you are going to have to rebuild the sills anyway, which is where alot of the cost is going be anyway.Typically if your sills are rotten, there is going to be some water or rot to some of the other surrounding wood etc.
The question of new construction or retrofit will depend on what material is on the outside of the house, what steps are needed to removing the new construction windows that are up there now, etc. That's why I'm saying get a handful of opinions. You will also be AMAZED by the difference in price that the local companies will come up with.
In terms of windows, the Daylight Max is just okay in my opinion. You are in San Diego, so I would recommend the Milgard Tuscany Window, the Anlin Del Mar and the Amerimax, Amerimax Craftsman Portrait, and the Simonton 9800 Impressions. These are all good vinyl windows that should be available in your area and will fall into a mid range vinyl window price point.
Let me know what the contractors say about the project!
Dane - Site Editor - from 2018
Daylight Max vs Ply Gem Pro
I'm looking at the Ply Gem Pro series and the Simonton Daylight Max. Which would you recommend and why?
Gwen - Homeowner - from 2015
[Site Editor's Response]
Gwen, I would have to give the nod to the Ply Gem Pro. The Simonton Daylight Max uses a narrow frame to provide "max daylight," which will equate to more glass or viewing area, but at a cost of performance. The U-value and AI are going to be a bit lower on the Pro than the Daylight Max. The Ply Gem Pro is going to be a sturdier window in my opinion. By how much, that's up for debate, but if I were making the choice, this is what I'd go with.
Make sure you get good installation from a reputable local company. This is important to making sure that the window is properly placed and secured in the window and that it's going to provide the energy efficiency that you need from new windows. Finally, take a quick look at our Simonton Daylight Max reviews page for the energy efficiency numbers and opinons.
Dane - Site Editor - from 2015
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